RippinFoamies.com Perfexion "Outdoor" Build

rc4metoo · Apr 16, 2006, 09:35 AM

Hello fellow foam flyers!

Due to popular pressure, I have finished the design and started construction on an outdoor version of my popular Perfexion 3D foamie bipe. I call it the Perfexion OD (out-door).

Plans are now available on www.RippinFoamies.com.
Specs: Wings 33", Fuse 35", weight 14 ounces (est.)
Motor: Himax 2812
Battery: TP 1320 3-cell Pro-Lite

Enjoy!

John Cramer
www.RippinFoamies.com

rc4metoo · Apr 16, 2006, 07:34 PM

Got a little more done.

JC
Chief designer and 3D test pilot
www.RippinFoamies.com

rc4metoo · Apr 19, 2006, 11:23 AM

I have completed the build. I'm bummed that I accidentally deleted the interior shots and the motor mount build

. Oh, well, the plans will show that detail.

Enjoy!

I'll post a flight report as soon as it stops blowing here in Michigan.

JC
www.RippinFoamies.com

rc4metoo · Apr 19, 2006, 11:30 AM

Got here done. Need to test fly and clean up plans before release.

JC

hawk4932 · Apr 20, 2006, 05:30 AM

Yes, that thing is huge. Looks very good though.

Hawk

rc4metoo · Apr 20, 2006, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk4932

Yes, that thing is huge. Looks very good though.

Hawk

Yeah, she looks big. Here are the specs:

Wings: 33"
Length: 35.5"
RTF weight: 15 ounces (est.)

I just purchased a couple of new 3-cell 1320s lipos that will do 17 amps continuous so I should have plenty of power available.

JC
www.rippinfoamies.com

rc4metoo · Apr 20, 2006, 09:56 AM

Seems I had downloaded these before reformatting my camera card.

JC
www.rippinfoamies.com

rc4metoo · Apr 20, 2006, 10:02 AM

JC
www.rippinfoamies.com

rc4metoo · Apr 20, 2006, 10:05 AM

Looking gooooood!

JC
www.rippinfoamies.com

hawk4932 · Apr 21, 2006, 06:11 AM

Looking forward to your maiden to see how she performs. Will you be able to get any video of it??? Thanks, Hawk

rc4metoo · Apr 21, 2006, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk4932

Looking forward to your maiden to see how she performs. Will you be able to get any video of it??? Thanks, Hawk

Hopefully flying tonight. Weather is great outside now. Did weight and balance and she looks fine. AUW RTF is 16 ounces. Short video possible tonight if all goes well.

JC
www.rippinfoamies.com

rc4metoo · Apr 22, 2006, 12:48 PM

Got rained out last night, but managed one flight this morning before the winds blew up. Flight testing cut short by motor vibration. I think it is just a combination of shimming the stick-mount to reduce play, and balancing the prop. Vibration precluded much WOT testing.

CG is about "on" for beginner/intermediate 3D, but I'll move it a little forward for my personal "advanced" preference (if I say so myself

).

How does she fly? Great! This thing flies like a glow ship. It tracks very straight, rolls very fast and crisp, and has virtually no roll coupling. Very similar to the indoor model in this respect. The winds started blowing when we shot some video and it penetrated quite well - better than my numerous other foamies.

I'm looking forward to more testing before I clean-up the plans and release.

Video: http://www.RippinFoamies.com/Public/...rfexion_OD.mov

Best regards,

JC
www.RippinFoamies.com

rc4metoo · Apr 24, 2006, 09:32 PM

Just a quick update for those interested. She is flying great. Flies very precise, will take some wind, rolls great, ....flies a like a much bigger 3D glow ship. She will do a knife-edge wall, and no problem with large knife-edge loops on knife-edge loops.

Stick motor mount broke (on the motor). I converted Himax to back bulkhead mount. This is actually simpler method and probably for the best as most motor are not stick mount.

Got CG correct with new motor mount. No changes to fuse needed. I'll be cleaning up plans for release soon.

I'm lovin' it!

JC
www.rippinfoamies.com

hawk4932 · Apr 25, 2006, 03:21 AM

Unfortunatly I have not been able to view the video. It maybe my crappy dialup connection.
Could the fuse be built using 3mm depron to cut down on the weight and how much would you think that this would save? I have an extra ESSKAY 400XT which will fly models up to 18 ozs but I need to get the weight down to around 10-11 ozs for 3D type flight with this motor.Thanks

Hawk

rc4metoo · Apr 25, 2006, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk4932

Unfortunatly I have not been able to view the video. It maybe my crappy dialup connection.
Could the fuse be built using 3mm depron to cut down on the weight and how much would you think that this would save? I have an extra ESSKAY 400XT which will fly models up to 18 ozs but I need to get the weight down to around 10-11 ozs for 3D type flight with this motor.Thanks

Hawk

Hello Hawk,

I just downloaded the move and it played OK, but I have DSL. The movie is about 4 meg.

I looked up the specs of the Esskay 400XT and it is too small for the Perfexion Outdoor model. I am recommending 150-200 watt motors for the Perfexion Outdoor. The Himax HC2812-850 that I am currently using is a 150 watt motor.

I would not recommend building the Perfexion Outdoor out of 3mm depron. It could be done but a model of this size at 10-11 ounces would not be suitable for outdoor flying - it would simply be blown away in the wind.

I sometimes find myself trying to find airframe designs that fit the motors that I have on hand. It is better to find a design that you like and then acquire the correct components.

Best regards,

JC
www.rippinfoamies.com

Apr 16, 2006, 09:35 AM	#1
rc4metoo Foam Flyer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 266	RippinFoamies.com Perfexion "Outdoor" Build Hello fellow foam flyers! Due to popular pressure, I have finished the design and started construction on an outdoor version of my popular Perfexion 3D foamie bipe. I call it the Perfexion OD (out-door). Plans are now available on www.RippinFoamies.com. Specs: Wings 33", Fuse 35", weight 14 ounces (est.) Motor: Himax 2812 Battery: TP 1320 3-cell Pro-Lite Enjoy! John Cramer www.RippinFoamies.com Attached Thumbnails I print plans out full-size at Kinkos. I am now putting stencils and plans on one sheet to save printing costs. I then use the acetone transfer method to create posterboard templates to cut the foam. 26.0 KB · Views: 253 Fuse sides are stacked and hot glued at each end to form an envelope. 39.6 KB · Views: 259 Wing halves are glued at center with hot glue. 38.5 KB · Views: 244 Tail end is hot glued. 32.8 KB · Views: 222 Perfexion OD and proud designer. She flies great! Like a glow ship without the mess. Precise and 3D like a champ! 53.5 KB · Views: 288 Last edited by rc4metoo; Apr 28, 2006 at 11:57 AM. Reason: plans are now available

Apr 16, 2006, 07:34 PM	#2
rc4metoo Foam Flyer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 266	And a little more of the Perfexion OD 33" Got a little more done. JC Chief designer and 3D test pilot www.RippinFoamies.com Attached Thumbnails Foamy parts ready for painting the base (light) color using stecils cut from plans. I really like painting Depron since it is snow white - it will take any color very well. 23.1 KB · Views: 247 Base color of yellow is complete. This is Krylon Fusion paint and it dries by the time you can put the can down and take the stencils off. 25.8 KB · Views: 264 Stencil in place for second color (darker). Mist on the Krylon from 1-2 feet away and don't use too much. 21.9 KB · Views: 279 A batch of painted foamy parts. The white Depron show bright colors very well. 40.4 KB · Views: 312

Apr 19, 2006, 11:23 AM	#3
rc4metoo Foam Flyer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 266	She's ready to rock!!!!!!!!!!! I have completed the build. I'm bummed that I accidentally deleted the interior shots and the motor mount build . Oh, well, the plans will show that detail. Enjoy! I'll post a flight report as soon as it stops blowing here in Michigan. JC www.RippinFoamies.com Attached Thumbnails Routing the spars channels on the bottom of both wing panels. 47.8 KB · Views: 260 Apply tape and set with warm iron on "1". I used small pieces of 3M Blenderm in high stress areas on the elevator and rudder. 40.1 KB · Views: 268 Elevator servo detail. I run extension wire inside the fuse to the RX. 33.1 KB · Views: 280 Aileron serve detail. Short linkages. Also, note how servos (2) are equidistant from the thrust line for knife-edge balance. 23.5 KB · Views: 242 Wheel pant cage. This worked very well on my indoor models so I thought that I would try it out on this one. 44.8 KB · Views: 230

Apr 19, 2006, 11:30 AM	#4
rc4metoo Foam Flyer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 266	Finished!!!!!!!! Got here done. Need to test fly and clean up plans before release. JC Attached Thumbnails Aileron connectors. Made from large zip ties and Dubro mini parts. Connection between ailerons is 1mm CF rod. 29.3 KB · Views: 287 Stringing the 1mm CF rod X-bracing. This is one sturdy birdy. 44.7 KB · Views: 262 She's done and ready to rumble. Power is Himax 2812-850 on three cells. Prop is APC 12x6 SF. 38.1 KB · Views: 286 Top view. This design is not just a scaled up indoor Perfexion. I changed the wing design and elevator and fuse proportions. 51.8 KB · Views: 265 Wow! She is bigger than I thought! Looking good and ready to rumble! Amazing what you can do with a couple of pieces of foam! 53.5 KB · Views: 294

Apr 20, 2006, 09:56 AM	#7
rc4metoo Foam Flyer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 266	Found the missing construction photos! Seems I had downloaded these before reformatting my camera card. JC www.rippinfoamies.com Attached Thumbnails Stick mount for Himaxx is made from 3/8" hardwood and popsicle sticks. Cut recessed notches in hardwood stick. 34.2 KB · Views: 228 Use medium CA to attach popsicle sticks. 43.5 KB · Views: 242 Align and hot glue to horizontal foam motor mount. 46.6 KB · Views: 214 Slide in and hot glue to nose. 41.2 KB · Views: 248

Apr 20, 2006, 05:30 AM	#5
hawk4932 UH-60 Blackhawk TI Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Michigan, United States Posts: 175	Yes, that thing is huge. Looks very good though. Hawk

Apr 20, 2006, 10:02 AM	#8
rc4metoo Foam Flyer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 266	Buttoning up construction.. JC www.rippinfoamies.com Attached Thumbnails I glue in my CF rod wing spars with foam-safe CA. 31.0 KB · Views: 222 Insert uppper fuse piece and glue in. Leave bottom open for installation of electronics. 53.3 KB · Views: 235 Hot glue in all the electronics. I need servo extension for the elevator and rudder. 32.5 KB · Views: 251 Make sure everthing works before fitting in bottom of fuse. 61.6 KB · Views: 252 Fuse all buttoned up. RX is blue square in photo. It can be pulled out to access servo connections. 50.6 KB · Views: 242

Apr 20, 2006, 10:05 AM	#9
rc4metoo Foam Flyer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 266	One more beauty shot... Looking gooooood! JC www.rippinfoamies.com Attached Thumbnails Window design is similar to British V-bombers. 48.0 KB · Views: 205 Wheel pants really dress her up! Mean looking stance. 40.6 KB · Views: 252

Apr 21, 2006, 06:11 AM	#10
hawk4932 UH-60 Blackhawk TI Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Michigan, United States Posts: 175	Looking forward to your maiden to see how she performs. Will you be able to get any video of it??? Thanks, Hawk

Apr 22, 2006, 12:48 PM	#12
rc4metoo Foam Flyer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 266	She flies!!! See Video! Got rained out last night, but managed one flight this morning before the winds blew up. Flight testing cut short by motor vibration. I think it is just a combination of shimming the stick-mount to reduce play, and balancing the prop. Vibration precluded much WOT testing. CG is about "on" for beginner/intermediate 3D, but I'll move it a little forward for my personal "advanced" preference (if I say so myself ). How does she fly? Great! This thing flies like a glow ship. It tracks very straight, rolls very fast and crisp, and has virtually no roll coupling. Very similar to the indoor model in this respect. The winds started blowing when we shot some video and it penetrated quite well - better than my numerous other foamies. I'm looking forward to more testing before I clean-up the plans and release. Video: http://www.RippinFoamies.com/Public/...rfexion_OD.mov Best regards, JC www.RippinFoamies.com

Apr 24, 2006, 09:32 PM	#13
rc4metoo Foam Flyer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 266	Five more flights and wow! what a foamie! Just a quick update for those interested. She is flying great. Flies very precise, will take some wind, rolls great, ....flies a like a much bigger 3D glow ship. She will do a knife-edge wall, and no problem with large knife-edge loops on knife-edge loops. Stick motor mount broke (on the motor). I converted Himax to back bulkhead mount. This is actually simpler method and probably for the best as most motor are not stick mount. Got CG correct with new motor mount. No changes to fuse needed. I'll be cleaning up plans for release soon. I'm lovin' it! JC www.rippinfoamies.com

Apr 25, 2006, 03:21 AM	#14
hawk4932 UH-60 Blackhawk TI Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Michigan, United States Posts: 175	Unfortunatly I have not been able to view the video. It maybe my crappy dialup connection. Could the fuse be built using 3mm depron to cut down on the weight and how much would you think that this would save? I have an extra ESSKAY 400XT which will fly models up to 18 ozs but I need to get the weight down to around 10-11 ozs for 3D type flight with this motor.Thanks Hawk

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