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Old Nov 17, 2009, 08:18 AM
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Sexy cover. There's a local guy here that does a similar thing to his Gamblers. Works nicely.
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Old Nov 17, 2009, 08:50 AM
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Any tips for drilling the hole in the wing tip for the peg?
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Old Nov 17, 2009, 09:06 AM
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Start the hole with the tip of a hobby knife by spinning the tip right where you want the hole. Once started use a 1/8" drill bit. I put mine in a T-handle for a tap&die set and drill it by hand, but if you're careful you should be able to use a cordless drill on slow speed.
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Old Nov 17, 2009, 10:21 AM
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What about making it perpendicular to the part of the wing that attaches to the fuse. How important is it to make it exact? Any tricks for that angle? Also, I have never covered a dihedral wing should it be done in 3 separate sections?
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Old Nov 17, 2009, 10:24 AM
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What about making it perpendicular to the part of the wing that attaches to the fuse. How important is it to make it exact? Any tricks for that angle? Also, I have never covered a dihedral wing should it be done in 3 separate sections?
Definitely cover in 3 sections. Overlap a little at the dihedral breaks. When I drill mine I put a book on the center section to hold it flat on the bench, then I just use a small level to get the peg perpendicular to the table. You can probably get it close enough by eye honestly.
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Old Nov 17, 2009, 01:06 PM
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What is the CG of the Gambler AG? Also what are the control throws in inch or percent for rudder and elevator? Can you CG it like other planes? Thought that Ultracoat lite might be to thin to support aircraft but maybe if I put a couple of pieces of blue masking tape on bottom of wings with CG line on them to balance.

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Old Nov 17, 2009, 01:17 PM
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CG range is on the plans. Throws are 45-degrees for the rudder, 30-degrees for the elevator.
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Old Nov 17, 2009, 03:53 PM
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CG range is on the plans. Throws are 45-degrees for the rudder, 30-degrees for the elevator.
Duh, the plans of course, I was looking in the instruction booklet.

Thanks.
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Old Nov 17, 2009, 03:57 PM
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Duh, the plans of course, I was looking in the instruction booklet.

Thanks.
Joe
I should have it in both places. I'll add it to the instructions next time I'm editing them. Sorry.

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Old Nov 17, 2009, 04:51 PM
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I should have it in both places. I'll add it to the instructions next time I'm editing them. Sorry.
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Allan,
While you're talking about editing instructions, I think you've got a great product here, but the instructions in my opinion could be a lot better at practically zero cost.

The few photos in the instruction are not up to quality easily available today, and there could be a lot more of them.

The task that scares many first time builders is glassing which could benefit greatly by a set of high quality step-by-step photos. The present instruction has no pictures on this step.

To give a view of what I'm suggesting take a look at the step-by-step photos for this top of the line, expensive HL.
http://www.olgol.com/TabooGT/build1.html

Although this is an expensive plane its is not the instructions that make it expensive. Digital photos like this are practically free.

I know it would take time to do, but you've got a plane here that is definitely worth it. I don't think it's possible to have too many pictures for the first time builder.

Just one opinion from a guy who loves the Gambler.
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Old Nov 18, 2009, 08:29 AM
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I'll look at taking some more photos of the missing steps next spring when I build next year's 'fleet'. Good suggestion about the fiberglass step. One thing...digital photos are cheap....good ones, require skill. I seem to be a better plane designer/builder than photographer. You'd think the two skills would have some similar qualities, but photography seems to give me trouble for some reason.
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Old Nov 18, 2009, 11:47 AM
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Photo considerations

Allan,
Good to know you are receptive to adding a lot more pictures to your instruction.

Good photography does require a bit of practice, but nowhere near that needed to read and stay in lift!

And, like thermaling you can't learn it by not doing it.
You get a lot of questions here that could best be answered with practice photos that may also go into the instruction. Your stock will build fast.

First, a dedicated photo area with dedicated light is important.
There are several light boxes available, but you can easily rig your own less restrictive set up as shown below. Flash is OK for some pictures, but gives harsh hot spots and either burns out close-ups, or not enough light when real close.

Most common photo mistake is conflicting backgrounds.
Second is not using the camera macro setting for close-ups.

Because the light is always the same on your photo setup the best exposure is determined by test using Manual exposure then always use the same setting. Mine is 1/50 sec @ f5.6.

Auto exposure camera setting will be influenced by the color of the object and the background. Use Manual.

I hope I'm not boring everybody to death with this, but most of us like to help others and best way is with good photos.
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Old Nov 18, 2009, 02:56 PM
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ordered kit, Cant wait. I am in a cleaning frenzy so I am ready for its arrival. Like a fat kid in a candy store... I am still back on page 71 should have all my notes ready by the time the kit arrives. Then I will throw them out and ask all the questions again. I am going to do a build thread here http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...tml#post941803 as you can see I am a little ahead of actual kit arrival.

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Old Nov 18, 2009, 02:59 PM
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I'll get it out tomorrow. Thanks for the order!
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Old Nov 18, 2009, 03:01 PM
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I'll get it out tomorrow. Thanks for the order!
NO worries, Thank you for such a great kit even a ARF guy can tackle. Damn I am excited


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