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Old May 03, 2006, 07:14 PM
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oh and just one more hint... for clean 3d flying you should go with the flat wings. this might also alleviate the close rudder-roll coupling that mine has.
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Old May 03, 2006, 07:29 PM
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Yah, I was thinking about that. I know an airfoil will make the wings roll from yawing, but it really helps a plane to fly slower in tight places. I'll probably just compromise with a very shallow camber.

I'll be scaling it down to having a 20" wingspan. I'll power it with a 23g CustomCDR single-stator Cool Wind motor with a Hyperion 2S300 pack and a GWS 8x4HD prop. Should be small and light enough for most auditoriums.
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Old May 04, 2006, 01:22 AM
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Sure there is! here you go... nontiled updated plans. free to use and distribute for a non commerial purposes!
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Thank you much buddy!

Hey Rob, let me know if you want me to cut you out a set.
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Old May 04, 2006, 08:05 AM
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I just GOTTA' build one of these , NEXT!!!!.... Thanks !!! Cool looking plane !!!!
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Old May 04, 2006, 03:23 PM
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Go ahead and let us see some pics when you're finished. It is cute and flyes very nice. I think you're gonna like it!
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Old May 04, 2006, 10:55 PM
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Tom, If you are cutting one for yourself, I would appreciate it. We can trade for a motor or other goodies.
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Old May 05, 2006, 02:10 AM
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Rob, You got it buddy! I am painting my kids room tomorrow, but Sat I will prob cut them out.

Chara, thanks again.

GPW, I can't wait to see what you make this one do! LOL! I don't think it will WAG or Flip-Flop tho, ROTFLMAO.
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Old May 05, 2006, 06:49 AM
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Just some good FUN flying would be fine for me ... Heck , I have 3D planes , just want a FUN bipe since my SL bipe got retired....
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Old May 06, 2006, 05:17 AM
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Chara, thanks again, I am going to run out about 10am to print the plans off at Kinkos. I just copied it to my USB Memory stick so I am ready to go.

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Tom, If you are cutting one for yourself, I would appreciate it. We can trade for a motor or other goodies.
Rob, drop me a phone call if you want. I don't think this weekend I will be out at the bowl for flying, I am still swapped with work here at the house. I am cutting the planes out to clear my mind and do something enjoyable (rather than messing with paint and spackle).
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Old May 06, 2006, 04:02 PM
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Tom,
This looks like a nice little plane! i will have to make one too after I catch up on all of my projects. Has Tim seen it?
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Old May 06, 2006, 04:17 PM
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Split Elevator = Bad Idea.

Well, can't say I wasn't warned. Should've took pictures beforehand. I figured using the elevators as elevons would be sufficient considering the size of the stabilizer and how short-coupled the bipie is.

The roll rate isn't too bad, until you give it elevator, then things get kind of wonky.

....and you better be quick on the rudder once you get inverted, but there is NO roll response...

Wasn't quick enough. Knifed-edge to the ground. No biggie, only depron-damage. I think I'll just slap together a bipie built to the plans with the quad-ailerons. The experiment was fun, but I think I'll go the tried-n-true route this time!
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Old May 06, 2006, 07:26 PM
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Chara, thanks again, I am going to run out about 10am to print the plans off at Kinkos. I just copied it to my USB Memory stick so I am ready to go.
you're welcome buddy - hope you'll soon be having fun with your Bipie. Drop a few lines of how you like it and maybe some pics when you have flown it!
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Old May 06, 2006, 07:30 PM
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that's too bad it did'n work with the split elevator. thanks for trying out, I was very curious to see if a taileron works on a bipe.
will you stay with 20" WS?
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Old May 06, 2006, 07:46 PM
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hello, guys, i have a bipie on the table, all that is left is to figure out where to put electronics, and batt. and install top wing, it is a really fun build, any help on this? thanks chara for the plans!
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Old May 06, 2006, 07:59 PM
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Hey X
the positions of the servos are indicated in the plans.
I place battery and controller between the inner wing struts.
they fit pretty nicely there and will be cooled by the propwash.
that's how you get also the CG at the proper location.
the receiver is placed on the left side of the fuse below the horizontal
part of the fuse assembly.
err...was that clear enough?

That's a bit the pitty about "profilies": rc-gear and cables hurt my eyes everytime I start strapping them on . There is a full fused Bipie on my project list but that's a long way to go.

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