What is the prettiest ol -timer? - Page 4

Applehoney · Apr 05, 2006, 01:26 PM

>hat ranks high on the list.

Me, too; would be a most unusual and attractve sport model

Oian · Apr 06, 2006, 03:09 AM

Gossie,Jwfinn, Applehoney:

I got my plan from JohnPond, his plans are available from the AMA www.modelaircraft.org look under "Plans service" section "F" it's listed as French 1936 Record, page 39. ($19.00)

The original has a span of 81" and an area of 803sq.in. The engine shown on the plan is a Brown Junior. I think it would be a great model for the SAM Brown Junior class.

For a three view to see what it looks like, its in the Zaic 1938 yearbook or you can find one at the SAM 600 web site www.sam600.com Look in the model recognition section in the antique section. It's listed as French 42 Min record. The designer was M. Lartique.

The original model shows a planked fuselage, but I chose to use stringers as it's lighter and easier to get to the radio components. The fuselage could also be covered with sheet wood as it's a straight taper. If you use stringers, you will need to use a diagonal wrap of Kevlar thread for torsional stiffness. It doesn't take much, once up and back at about 45 degrees, it works wonders.

Attached is a photo of a 1005sq.in. version I'm building for the Electric Texaco event (that's a very beat up yardstick in the photo for scale). what you see is 52"long, the nose will add another 6". If you choose to use stringer construction I would suggest doubling the number of fuselage formers shown on the plan, as in the photo.

gossie · Apr 06, 2006, 05:56 AM

Thanks for info. Oian.

Kiwi · Apr 06, 2006, 06:55 AM

My vote would go to the "Mystery Man" out of the June 39 Air Trails, drop off landing gear and a lovely gull wing layout.

California Condor · Apr 06, 2006, 11:14 AM

How about this one, a 1938 Lancer 45 scaled up to 80".

wingbeat · Apr 06, 2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by California Condor

How about this one, a 1938 Lancer 45 scaled up to 80".

Wow- a big Lancer! I love it... did you scale up? Your plane? Plans? More pics? What a beauty.

cheers

guapoman2000 · Apr 06, 2006, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by California Condor

How about this one, a 1938 Lancer 45 scaled up to 80".

Very nice model and seems to be very streamline FUSE such that it may have some speed as well! You got my attention!

California Condor · Apr 06, 2006, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingbeat

Wow- a big Lancer! I love it... did you scale up? Your plane? Plans? More pics? What a beauty.

cheers

Yers, I scaled it up. BTW I won the fly off and beat the Champ (Jin Renyolds). Only one other beat him at that SAM Champs.
The green Lancer is is the original siz

wingbeat · Apr 06, 2006, 07:11 PM

Not that I want to turn this into a Lancer thread, but...

what kind of power is in your 80" Lancer?
Are your scaled up plans available?

California Condor · Apr 06, 2006, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingbeat

Not that I want to turn this into a Lancer thread, but...

what kind of power is in your 80" Lancer?
Are your scaled up plans available?

No, I don't have plans. I flew it with an OS 40 VRP in LER and an Ohlsson 60 in Texaco.

Chas · Apr 11, 2006, 06:01 PM

One day...

Applehoney · Apr 11, 2006, 06:35 PM

Evander?

Chas · Apr 11, 2006, 06:45 PM

Yes Apple that's wot I typed.

GR Murrin design from the late Forties; even off the X List now I believe, but I do have a copy of a copy of a copy of the Aeromodeller magazine snippet to build from

gossie · Apr 11, 2006, 07:37 PM

They were a huge build some of those sailplanes from the 40s.

Have a few very old Aeromodeller mags with them in but don't think l could stand to do one.

The designs though for their time to me are still mind boggling.

BMatthews · Apr 11, 2006, 07:37 PM

Hey Chas, how large is the Evander?

OK, so this next one isn't technically an old timer but I'd like to think that it was inspired by my tastes in old timers. It comes from a thread I posted in Sailplanes.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attac...hmentid=761870

Apr 06, 2006, 03:09 AM	#47
Oian Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Selma, CA, USA Posts: 287	Gossie,Jwfinn, Applehoney: I got my plan from JohnPond, his plans are available from the AMA www.modelaircraft.org look under "Plans service" section "F" it's listed as French 1936 Record, page 39. ($19.00) The original has a span of 81" and an area of 803sq.in. The engine shown on the plan is a Brown Junior. I think it would be a great model for the SAM Brown Junior class. For a three view to see what it looks like, its in the Zaic 1938 yearbook or you can find one at the SAM 600 web site www.sam600.com Look in the model recognition section in the antique section. It's listed as French 42 Min record. The designer was M. Lartique. The original model shows a planked fuselage, but I chose to use stringers as it's lighter and easier to get to the radio components. The fuselage could also be covered with sheet wood as it's a straight taper. If you use stringers, you will need to use a diagonal wrap of Kevlar thread for torsional stiffness. It doesn't take much, once up and back at about 45 degrees, it works wonders. Attached is a photo of a 1005sq.in. version I'm building for the Electric Texaco event (that's a very beat up yardstick in the photo for scale). what you see is 52"long, the nose will add another 6". If you choose to use stringer construction I would suggest doubling the number of fuselage formers shown on the plan, as in the photo. Attached Thumbnails 70.0 KB · Views: 549 Last edited by Oian; Apr 06, 2006 at 03:22 AM. Reason: add photo

Apr 06, 2006, 11:14 AM	#50
California Condor Old Timer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CARMICHAEL, CALIFORNIA USA Posts: 2,892	Lancer How about this one, a 1938 Lancer 45 scaled up to 80". Attached Thumbnails 28.1 KB · Views: 574 30.7 KB · Views: 614

Apr 11, 2006, 06:01 PM	#56
Chas Voices through wires? Ha! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,230	Evander for me... One day... Attached Thumbnails 5.1 KB · Views: 471

Apr 05, 2006, 01:26 PM	#46
Applehoney Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ajax, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,647	>hat ranks high on the list. Me, too; would be a most unusual and attractve sport model

Apr 06, 2006, 05:56 AM	#48
gossie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast Australia. Posts: 1,482	Thanks for info. Oian.

Apr 06, 2006, 06:55 AM	#49
Kiwi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Island, New Zealand Posts: 1,757	My vote would go to the "Mystery Man" out of the June 39 Air Trails, drop off landing gear and a lovely gull wing layout.

Apr 06, 2006, 07:11 PM	#54
wingbeat Gravity gets me down. Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,835	Not that I want to turn this into a Lancer thread, but... what kind of power is in your 80" Lancer? Are your scaled up plans available?

Apr 11, 2006, 06:35 PM	#57
Applehoney Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ajax, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,647	Evander?

Apr 11, 2006, 06:45 PM	#58
Chas Voices through wires? Ha! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,230	Yes Apple that's wot I typed. GR Murrin design from the late Forties; even off the X List now I believe, but I do have a copy of a copy of a copy of the Aeromodeller magazine snippet to build from

Apr 11, 2006, 07:37 PM	#59
gossie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast Australia. Posts: 1,482	They were a huge build some of those sailplanes from the 40s. Have a few very old Aeromodeller mags with them in but don't think l could stand to do one. The designs though for their time to me are still mind boggling.

Apr 11, 2006, 07:37 PM	#60
BMatthews B for Bruce Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 4,683	Hey Chas, how large is the Evander? OK, so this next one isn't technically an old timer but I'd like to think that it was inspired by my tastes in old timers. It comes from a thread I posted in Sailplanes. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attac...hmentid=761870