What is the prettiest ol -timer? - Page 3

Applehoney · Mar 30, 2006, 11:34 PM

'Smoothie' is indeed a lovely airplane. I have the O'Reilly drawing in the files - very impressive model.

gossie · Mar 31, 2006, 06:48 AM

Here are 2 Ladybirds, rubber one was mentioned by Joshua and flys well on 30g rubber as used in Senators---about 1/2 the rubber as per the plan.

Ladybird Special Mills 1.3 power, and as well as a good looking old model a very good and stable flyer----both free flight.

TLyttle · Mar 31, 2006, 09:09 PM

Ain't they beeyoootiful? I spent a lot of time looking for an OT design that I really liked, found plans for and built a Long Cabin, flew it to death on a Frog 3.5 diesel. Had to get rid of it during a "downsizing", broke my heart. Also built a High Climber, had to dump it at the same time, but a recent pic showed me that it is still flying 25+ years later.

My only (current) OT is a Canadian " Junior Commercial", a model that the RCAF used as a "beginner's model (!!!)" ~WW11... Yet to be flown.

jwfinn · Apr 01, 2006, 06:50 AM

Gossie, I was actually refering to the power version on the Ladybird. Much prettier, IMO, than the rubber version, which is a bit boxy to me.

Bmatthews, I'm gonna have to take you up on those plans. That's a great offer. Not right now though...this poor college student is a bit low on funds and waiting for summer so I can replenish them. I totally agree about the Smoothie vs the Copland, simply on the fact that the Copland has fixed gear and prop. It also lacks the character of the Smoothie what with the cabin and all. Harder to build, too, with those funny wing mounts.

BMatthews · Apr 01, 2006, 11:53 AM

Gossie, those are SOOOO pretty! The gassie is definetly the nicer of the two but the rubber model is still great. It's got that "toy airplane" look in a simpler and equally elegant manner about it. For myself I find that simplicity, well executed with balanced proportions, has it's own beauty and the rubber Ladybird definetly has that. And lets not forget that the gas version has all that extra power to haul around the extra "stuff"...

Megowcoupe · Apr 01, 2006, 06:13 PM

I always thought the Stardust Special was quite pretty, but I agree that it's hard to argue with Bill Dean's Southerner. Or do you really want to argue with a Goldberg Sailplane or a Valkyrie?

Sam

gossie · Apr 02, 2006, 04:44 AM

Don't 'argue with any of them---they are all sensational, and fly well for sure.

Applehoney · Apr 02, 2006, 02:42 PM

Talk of the 'Ladybird' reminded me that I built a scaled 22" version for a specific sport biplane event some 16/17 years ago. I called it "Ladybug", only later finding that was a popular term for the insect in North America. It was a pleasant little model, good for 60-65 seconds'; I could probably do it better now ...

BMatthews · Apr 02, 2006, 05:26 PM

Apple, a 30 inch version of that would be fun for the P30 event. We take all this contest stuff too seriously these days and this would be an ideal bit of whimsy...

drumy · Apr 03, 2006, 06:40 AM

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=500183

radioflier · Apr 04, 2006, 04:18 PM

Paul Plecan SIMPLEX from around 1940. Built from Model Builder Magazine plans. This photo shows a K&B .28 engine, but that has since been replaced with a geared electric.

Oian · Apr 04, 2006, 10:34 PM

1936 French Winner. Very aerodynamic for an SAM antique, functional beauty, great flyer.

The model pictured was my SAM Electric Texaco model for the old rules, unfortunately it flew too well and I no longer have it. I'm currently building another 1005 sq.in. version for the new SAM Electric Texaco rules(the one in the picture was about 320sq.in., 17 3/4oz, 6 1700AUL batteries). The new one will have 12 1700AUL batteries in two six cell packs wired in parallel.

The wing structure is way ahead of it's time, Nice airfoil and full webbed "D" box shown on the plan!

gossie · Apr 05, 2006, 06:26 AM

That's an interesting looking model.

What size was the origonal, and do you know the capacity of the engine in it please?

drumy · Apr 05, 2006, 07:36 AM

some of mine Old timers
thanks Cebola for the B.D plans!!!!!!

jwfinn · Apr 05, 2006, 10:22 AM

Oian, where do you get plans for that critter? I've never built a gassie (just rubber for me), but if I ever do, that ranks high on the list.

Mar 31, 2006, 06:48 AM	#32
gossie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast Australia. Posts: 1,481	Ladybirds. Here are 2 Ladybirds, rubber one was mentioned by Joshua and flys well on 30g rubber as used in Senators---about 1/2 the rubber as per the plan. Ladybird Special Mills 1.3 power, and as well as a good looking old model a very good and stable flyer----both free flight. Attached Thumbnails 63.4 KB · Views: 571

Mar 31, 2006, 09:09 PM	#33
TLyttle Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Keremeos, BC Canada Posts: 2,076	Ain't they beeyoootiful? I spent a lot of time looking for an OT design that I really liked, found plans for and built a Long Cabin, flew it to death on a Frog 3.5 diesel. Had to get rid of it during a "downsizing", broke my heart. Also built a High Climber, had to dump it at the same time, but a recent pic showed me that it is still flying 25+ years later. My only (current) OT is a Canadian " Junior Commercial", a model that the RCAF used as a "beginner's model (!!!)" ~WW11... Yet to be flown. Attached Thumbnails 60.5 KB · Views: 406

Apr 02, 2006, 02:42 PM	#38
Applehoney Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ajax, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,645	Talk of the 'Ladybird' reminded me that I built a scaled 22" version for a specific sport biplane event some 16/17 years ago. I called it "Ladybug", only later finding that was a popular term for the insect in North America. It was a pleasant little model, good for 60-65 seconds'; I could probably do it better now ... Attached Thumbnails 40.2 KB · Views: 420 44.4 KB · Views: 415

Apr 03, 2006, 06:40 AM	#40
drumy H.E. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 31	some Old Timers http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=500183

Apr 04, 2006, 04:18 PM	#41
radioflier Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Powell, OH, USA Posts: 159	Paul Plecan SIMPLEX from around 1940. Built from Model Builder Magazine plans. This photo shows a K&B .28 engine, but that has since been replaced with a geared electric. Attached Thumbnails 36.3 KB · Views: 528

Mar 30, 2006, 11:34 PM	#31
Applehoney Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ajax, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,645	'Smoothie' is indeed a lovely airplane. I have the O'Reilly drawing in the files - very impressive model.

Apr 01, 2006, 06:50 AM	#34
jwfinn Free Flight rubber flyer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 398	Gossie, I was actually refering to the power version on the Ladybird. Much prettier, IMO, than the rubber version, which is a bit boxy to me. Bmatthews, I'm gonna have to take you up on those plans. That's a great offer. Not right now though...this poor college student is a bit low on funds and waiting for summer so I can replenish them. I totally agree about the Smoothie vs the Copland, simply on the fact that the Copland has fixed gear and prop. It also lacks the character of the Smoothie what with the cabin and all. Harder to build, too, with those funny wing mounts.

Apr 01, 2006, 11:53 AM	#35
BMatthews B for Bruce Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 4,683	Gossie, those are SOOOO pretty! The gassie is definetly the nicer of the two but the rubber model is still great. It's got that "toy airplane" look in a simpler and equally elegant manner about it. For myself I find that simplicity, well executed with balanced proportions, has it's own beauty and the rubber Ladybird definetly has that. And lets not forget that the gas version has all that extra power to haul around the extra "stuff"...

Apr 01, 2006, 06:13 PM	#36
Megowcoupe Balsa Flies Better! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 5,541	I always thought the Stardust Special was quite pretty, but I agree that it's hard to argue with Bill Dean's Southerner. Or do you really want to argue with a Goldberg Sailplane or a Valkyrie? Sam

Apr 02, 2006, 04:44 AM	#37
gossie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast Australia. Posts: 1,481	Don't 'argue with any of them---they are all sensational, and fly well for sure.

Apr 02, 2006, 05:26 PM	#39
BMatthews B for Bruce Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 4,683	Apple, a 30 inch version of that would be fun for the P30 event. We take all this contest stuff too seriously these days and this would be an ideal bit of whimsy...

Apr 04, 2006, 10:34 PM	#42
Oian Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Selma, CA, USA Posts: 287	1936 French Winner. Very aerodynamic for an SAM antique, functional beauty, great flyer. The model pictured was my SAM Electric Texaco model for the old rules, unfortunately it flew too well and I no longer have it. I'm currently building another 1005 sq.in. version for the new SAM Electric Texaco rules(the one in the picture was about 320sq.in., 17 3/4oz, 6 1700AUL batteries). The new one will have 12 1700AUL batteries in two six cell packs wired in parallel. The wing structure is way ahead of it's time, Nice airfoil and full webbed "D" box shown on the plan! Attached Thumbnails 85.5 KB · Views: 455 103.1 KB · Views: 423 104.2 KB · Views: 353

Apr 05, 2006, 06:26 AM	#43
gossie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast Australia. Posts: 1,481	That's an interesting looking model. What size was the origonal, and do you know the capacity of the engine in it please?

Apr 05, 2006, 07:36 AM	#44
drumy H.E. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 31	some of mine Old timers some of mine Old timers thanks Cebola for the B.D plans!!!!!! Attached Thumbnails Brooklin Dodger 141.2 KB · Views: 515 Brooklin Dodger 143.7 KB · Views: 408 Vespa 133.8 KB · Views: 496 Porkey 178.1 KB · Views: 426 Junior 60 64.2 KB · Views: 547 Air Warden 58.0 KB · Views: 544 Last edited by drumy; Apr 05, 2006 at 07:48 AM.

Apr 05, 2006, 10:22 AM	#45
jwfinn Free Flight rubber flyer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 398	Oian, where do you get plans for that critter? I've never built a gassie (just rubber for me), but if I ever do, that ranks high on the list.