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Old Mar 14, 2006, 05:27 PM
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Artesania Latina's "Amsterdam" tug

Hi all,

New to this forum and leaping in with my first question - I am trying to find info on the "Amsterdam" tug that Artesania Latina produce in 1:50 scale.

The usual Google searches don't turn up anything on the prototype and I can't find anything relating to what the model is based on. I have an old kit and some of the plans, and wish to rebuild it (I have the hull and half-completed superstructure) but would like to base it on something.

Does anyone know where I can find info on the real Amsterdam - if there was such a thing - or if not called that, then the type of tug it was based on?

Any help appreciated!

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Darren
Melbourne, Australia
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 09:36 AM
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On one of these forums there is an entire thread devoted to the Amsterdam with pictures of the model and the real one. Type Amsterdam into the forums search window.
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 09:58 AM
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this might help.
there is one on eBay now.
: TECHNICAL DATA: LENGTH 1060MM, BEAM 250MM, HEIGHT 600MM. THE AMSTERDAM TUGBOAT WAS BUILT AT THE JOHAN ALKERS SHIPYARD IN HAMBURG, GERMANY IN 1971. IT WAS SPECIALLY BUILT TO HANDLE AND SERVE VERY LARGE SHIPS AND SUPER TANKERS OF THIS MODERN AGE. THREE OTHER SISTER-SHIPS WERE BUILT, CALLED MALABAR, TENACE AND CENTOUR, AND THESE ARE SERVING AT THEIS MOMENT WITH THE FRENCH NAVY. COPYRIGHT 1995, ARTESANIA LATINA, S.A. MAKE IN SPAIN. REF. 20201
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 10:22 AM
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Modelshipwright,

I've pm'd you.
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Old Mar 17, 2006, 08:49 AM
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Darren,

The Amsterdam was the lead ship in what my research seems to indicate was a 4-ship series. I'll have to check my records, but I believe 1 unit is serving with the French Navy, and two with the British Fleet (or reverse). Those units are painted gray, and have considerable differences in superstructure and top hamper from the kit. Window placement is different, and all units subsequent to the Amsterdam herself used life rafts instead of lifeboats, eliminating the need for the boat davits.

The Amsterdam herself was lost (to my understanding ) when she ran aground after the loss of her main reduction gear. You can find some information on her if you search the Wijsmuller site.

There's a video of my model (under construction) that kmot kindly posted yesterday. It takes a while to load: the buffering seems to be working strangely. You'll see the start of the paint scheme. The box top is all wrong.

I have a number of pictures that I'll post here. They are on my home computer, so that will be later today. The only information I don't have for colors is the deck: I intend to make it green, but have not been able to identify a good color or source for that. The predominant colors are black, white (Latina got those right), blue (about Ford engine blue in place of most of the orange) and medium brown (lifeboat trim, davits, aft hatch, bulwarks)

Hope that helps a little for now, and I'll try to post those pix tonight of all of the ships in the class.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 08:57 AM
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Darren,

Only real problem I had with the kit was that the two forward frames seem to be a little too large, and stretched the hull plastic a little. With the hull finished, you can see the location of the ribs if the light is right.

I would also recommend replacing the smaller pieces of wood (1.5 mm x 1.5 mm, and a few larger) with plastic if possible. The wood is very porous, and tough to fill and still look like metal.

When you build the "macks" (mast/stacks), be carefull that you build them so that they are mirror images of each other (don't ask....)

The cast fittings have large seams, so that is a bit of work. On the aft double tow bit, I just rebuilt the unit from plastic Evergreen pipe. Of course, that had it's own problems.

ERic
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Old Mar 17, 2006, 08:10 PM
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Amsterdam/Malabar/Tenace pictures

As promised, here are some pix I've accumulated over the last few years for my Amsterdam build. I don't know the sources, as I scavenged them where and when I could, and have switched computers about three times since then. My apologies for no credits.
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Old Mar 17, 2006, 08:56 PM
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I found windows on Malabar!
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/...php?lid=135754

Here's Tenace:
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/....php?lid=72362

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 10:28 PM
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More info. Apprently the Iranians bagged it.

http://www.zeesleepvaart.com/amsterdamII.eng.htm
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Old Mar 20, 2006, 10:36 PM
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Gold mine!

http://www.tugspotters.com/tugs/amsterdam.htm
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Old Mar 20, 2006, 10:40 PM
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Malabar!

http://www.tugspotters.com/tugs/malabar.htm
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Old Mar 20, 2006, 10:41 PM
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Tenace!

http://www.tugspotters.com/tugs/TENACE.A.669.htm
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Old Mar 08, 2007, 09:59 AM
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Hi all. I just joined after seeing these pictures to say thank you! I've been looking for roughly 8 years for pictures, and only ever found one. (the one showing her roughly port amidships, sunny weather). Found this site by chance, whilst searching for the Tenace.

I've owned this model since I was 11, stopped sailing her for a few years whilst at school/college, and have just took her out of 'drydock' to prep her for sailing again. I'll post some pictures when she's done. Once again, thanks a lot, and it's a great site.
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Old Mar 08, 2007, 12:42 PM
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Jayshum, welcome to the forum! You need to know, that all of us here love pictures.

So please do post pictures of your models.
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Old Feb 06, 2009, 07:33 PM
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Hey Kmot

Thanks for the picture postings of the various Amsterdam hulls. I am 1/2 way through building one and the pictures have given me a whole to path to follow. I really like the French version. I like the Haze Gray ships ( 20 years in the USN). I'm just at the point where adding the small craft crane and the few items won't be a problem. The dome radars add a little class to it.

Will post some pictures when I get the masts finished...

Thanks again
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