Discussion How do I go Brushless w/ CP2 ?

[probe3]

I finally found the fix to my CP2 problem ! Many thanx to everyone here. I changed out all 3 servos for the E-Flite S75s.

After constant hovering practice I already used up the main motor. Is going brushless worth it in the long run ? I plan to fly this thing for awhile, having a blast learning ! So I want a nice upgraded setup.

I've read that there are brushless motors I can use with the stock 4-1. I'm really new to brushless so I'm not sure what other parts I need to buy along with it.

Thanks !

[Hoverup]

This is one way that's pretty much plug-n-play.

http://www.deeteeenterprises.com/NS....P.Upgrades.php

You will also need a 9 tooth pinion with a 2mm center bore, a 3 cell pack of Lithium Polymer batteries (Thunder Power 1320mah packs work well) and a set of symmetrical blades. It's well worth the investment IMHO.

Cheers- Boyd
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[probe3]

Is this the set I need ? Part # BMC-2015-4100 ( Blade CP Brushless Motor Converter + Hi Max 2015-4100 Brushless Motor - With Complete Instalation Instructions )

[CaptEvo]

If you're on budget, get motor and esc, then do the 4-in-1 mod which is cheaper than buying the brushless converter. There's a thread on howto do it on here.

[Hoverup]

Originally Posted by probe3

Is this the set I need ? Part # BMC-2015-4100 ( Blade CP Brushless Motor Converter + Hi Max 2015-4100 Brushless Motor - With Complete Instalation Instructions )

You will also need the Phoenix 10 ESC.

[SSG Scott]

Originally Posted by CaptEvo

If you're on budget, get motor and esc, then do the 4-in-1 mod which is cheaper than buying the brushless converter. There's a thread on howto do it on here.

If you wanting to do it cheaper- you can do the entire mod for about 55 dollars. Grab the pdf file that covers the brushless mod (in this forum) and below are the parts you will need-
Motor:
http://www.heli-fever.com/product_in...roducts_id=445

Controller:
http://www.heli-fever.com/product_in...roducts_id=369

The use the pinion off your old motor. (use a 10 dollar pinion puller if you dont have one already).

I have two helis that have been modified this way and could not be more pleased with their performance. Then spend all the extra dollars that would would have spent on this mod on some heli parts so you can fly everyday and become an awesome pilot!

Good Luck and Happy Flying!

-Scott

[Mike abcd]

Scott,

Any impact on flight times with this brushless main motor conversion? You're running the BL main with the dual stock and DD tail motors?

Mike

[probe3]

Great thanks for the info ! *Goes and looks for the pdf*


Edited: Here is a direct link to the pdf if anyone is interested: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showa...hmentid=720245

[SSG Scott]

Originally Posted by Mike abcd

Scott,

Any impact on flight times with this brushless main motor conversion? You're running the BL main with the dual stock and DD tail motors?

Mike

Mike,

Yes you are correct. I have more power available and the run time might be just slightly longer but the motor is way cooler (150 degrees) as opposed to the stock motor which would normally be about 185 Degrees in temp after a 14 minute nonstop run (canopy on). The heli weights are about the same too. The brushless heli with out the battery weighs in at 243 grams and the normal setup heli (twin tail motors on both) weighs 237grams.

-Scott

[AKAKillaz]

On that note, are the e-bay brushless systems worth it...?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2006-VERSION-HON...QQcmdZViewItem

[neilswolf]

2900 seems under powered for this heli. 3600 seems like the sweet spot.

[SSG Scott]

Originally Posted by neilswolf

2900 seems under powered for this heli. 3600 seems like the sweet spot.

I agree a 3600KV motor is the one to choose. The 2900 might work if you used a 10tooth pinion

-Scott

[LuckyDuc]

I was considering this brushless motor when I upgrade my main motor to a BL one.
Link


Does anyone have experience with this motor?

[SSG Scott]

Looks like that should work !

[shschon]

Originally Posted by SSG Scott

If you wanting to do it cheaper- you can do the entire mod for about 55 dollars. Grab the pdf file that covers the brushless mod (in this forum) and below are the parts you will need-
Motor:
http://www.heli-fever.com/product_in...roducts_id=445

Controller:
http://www.heli-fever.com/product_in...roducts_id=369

The use the pinion off your old motor. (use a 10 dollar pinion puller if you dont have one already).

I have two helis that have been modified this way and could not be more pleased with their performance. Then spend all the extra dollars that would would have spent on this mod on some heli parts so you can fly everyday and become an awesome pilot!

Good Luck and Happy Flying!

-Scott

The controller seems to have auto throttle calibration which from my impression of reading this forum is not good for Heli. I think for Heli you need some ESC designed for Heli is best.