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Old Feb 27, 2008, 03:32 PM
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difficult to tell about the thrusty angle. i used the suggesed from the manual and it was bang ok...battery is big i use that one for aerobatics/mild 3d, i have a smaller one (4oz lighter!) for 3d. When u gonna maiden your AM you cant be far off now. you in the US??
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Old Feb 27, 2008, 09:23 PM
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OK, I will use no brake then.
What about acceleration time ?
I believe for 3D you need fast acceleration to get you out of trouble, specially close to ground.
Did I attach prop correctly (pictures below) ? Should writings on prop be visible from the front ?
Thanx
You might try a different prop adapter that slides further down the motor shaft than the one you have.
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 12:21 AM
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Hopefully I will maiden my AM this weekend, still waiting for 2x HS65MG. I already have 2x HS82MG for tail.
I used big plastic washer from kit to mount motor, it's OK now.
If I understand correctly, thrust should be set "a little" to the right and "very little" down. I don't have any proper tool to check it, could you recommend something ? Maybe there's some nice link which explains how to properly trim plane during first flights.
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 10:53 AM
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In the instructions it gives the recommended thrust angles by using the 4 srews on the mount. Do u have the instructions?? I cant remember the amount but i can lookif you want, but yes, a bit down and right is the way. Reduces the propeller rolling the plane.
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 01:47 PM
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OK, thrust is done hopefully, anyway best way to check is during flight. Now I need to set travel : could you please recommend some for beginner ?
Manual says for example elevator : 35 mm-normal ; 70-mm 3D
Does it mean (normal) 35 mm up and 35 mm down ? So all together 70 mm.
For 3D 70 up and 70 down so together 140 mm. Correct ?

I will set expo for 30% to begin with and reduce it slowly by 5% let's say every 10-20 flights to 0%.
EDIT: No need for expo and dual rates on rudder ?
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 02:06 PM
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yeah 35mm each way, so 70mm for elevator total travel. i used the middle hole on servo arm and outer hole on horn for rudder and elevator. that gives good performance. if you have dual rates use them. i have high rates at 100% and low at 75%. dont use dual rates on rudder i woul suggest having rudder at full throw whether you a begineer or 3d. i also use expo at 30%(expt rud). i will make a video tomorrow if the weathers any good. by the way whats the time difference in slovakia?
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 02:29 PM
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1 hour more than UK.
One of my friend just told me that even normal throws are more than enough for beginner. He advised me to set 1. setup little less than normal and 2. setup like normal.
So I will probably go for:
low rates - Aileron 25mm; Elevator 25mm
high rates - Aileron 35mm; Elevator 35mm
Rudder 45mm both
Expo - 40% Elevator; 30% Aileron

When you are saying 100% high rates, you mean 100% of 3D or normal throws?
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 02:59 PM
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when i maidened my am i had full rates (100%) as normal and low rate at less than normal setup (bit like what ur mate said). To be honest i never used low rate as the plane flies so well. Now i have my full rate at 3d setup and low rate for normal. I dont fly alot of 3d (cos i am not that good yet ). If i was you i would just use normal rates (100%) and lower (80ish %) but i think after a few flights you will want to increase. What planes have u flown before?
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 03:28 PM
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when i maidened my am i had full rates (100%) as normal and low rate at less than normal setup (bit like what ur mate said). To be honest i never used low rate as the plane flies so well. Now i have my full rate at 3d setup and low rate for normal. I dont fly alot of 3d (cos i am not that good yet ). If i was you i would just use normal rates (100%) and lower (80ish %) but i think after a few flights you will want to increase. What planes have u flown before?
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My first plane. I have heli since summer. On sim (phoenix) I can fly AM without problem, so I decided to skip trainer. Soon I will find out if it was bad idea
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 03:40 PM
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you will be fine but definately dont have full 3d throws. Its just as easy to fly as some trainers is very stable and durable. it is my first aileron plane. Before i had gliders rudd/eve only. One thing you might need to watch is the undercarriage as its crap. Whats the weather like there. It sounds like it should be snowing all the time!
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 03:57 PM
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No snow anymore, it's about 10 degrees during these days, but rain is coming from Czech tomorrow :-( I rainforced undercarriage with string (picture). It should help.
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 04:21 PM
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i know how u feel. i booked the afternoon off work tomoorow so i could fly before its dark, just looked bat the weather for the uk, and its raining with 24mph wind!! Let us know how you get on with your maiden.
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Old Feb 29, 2008, 05:36 AM
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Has anyone used Multiplex Multiprimer before spraying or does acrylic adhere ok to Elapor ?
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Old Feb 29, 2008, 06:54 AM
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Has anyone used Multiplex Multiprimer before spraying or does acrylic adhere ok to Elapor ?
I have, acrylic doesn't adhere that well without it on the Elapor parts. If you do use the primer, make sure you read the instructions and use the minimum amount required, otherwise it starts melting the surface of the foam. Don't ask me how I know

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Old Feb 29, 2008, 07:11 AM
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ouch ....Cheers Mike,

Dont suppose you've tried RC Styro Paints on Elapor ?
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