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Old Jan 05, 2007, 05:58 PM
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It's the same plane, although the trim required isn't the same.

Another pic:
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Old Jan 05, 2007, 06:25 PM
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are there anny sugestions for the engine?
i must buy the engine and the regelaar and batery

is the Himax setup ok?

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Old Jan 06, 2007, 02:06 PM
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Raymon:

Though there are many motor/battery/prop combinations mentioned in the thread that work well, everyone who has tried the recommended set up (Himax motor, CC Phoenix 45 ESC, 3S1P 2100, & 11x5.5 prop) seems to like it. I think we would have seen more of the recommended setups used, but many were not finding the Himax motor in stock at one point.

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Old Jan 06, 2007, 02:16 PM
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Attaching the Landing Gear

I have a landing gear attachment question. In the instructions, the wording seemed pretty clear that we are to dry insert the plastic LG mount into the foam first, then put a bead of CA where the plastic meets the foam. I can only presume that they suggest this to protect the foam in case of a really hard landing, making repair easy (re-insert and re-bead). Surprisingly, this has held up nicely for weeks of landings until today. It was fairly windy and I decided to harrier land. It seemed to be a fairly gentle landing, but the plastic LG mount popped right off - didn't even bounce. The good news is that the repair is really quick/simple and no real damage was done (just a few millimeters of foam stuck to the plastic). I'd like for it to be more robust than this.

What has everyone else attached the LG?
a) Dry fitting with a bead of CA?
b) CAing the entire plastic piece to the foam? Does this pull away too much foam in a hard landing?
c) How about using UHU POR on the entire mount/foam connection? I would guess that it would flex on harder landings, but not break off as easily.

Thanks for letting me know what has worked for you and what you recommend.

Alan
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Old Jan 06, 2007, 02:19 PM
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Old Jan 06, 2007, 02:35 PM
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id agree, i used B. Never had a problem, untill the little clip that holds it in broke, and i lose the UC when i did a blender
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Old Jan 07, 2007, 06:30 AM
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I have found a shop where I can buy him in the Netherlands.
But I want know or I with that everything can think what you?
I want only with 1800mAh 3s fly

there is someone who measures table has of the engine?
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Old Jan 07, 2007, 08:27 AM
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I have found a shop where I can buy him in the Netherlands.
But I want know or I with that everything can think what you?
I want only with 1800mAh 3s fly

there is someone who measures table has of the engine?
Raymon,

If you do "Search this thread" and enter "1800", you'll find others that have used an 1800mAh battery, like Blucor Basher. From using a 2100, I suspect that your flight times will be pretty low unless you prop down to a 10 inch prop which may make 3D flying difficult.

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Old Jan 09, 2007, 05:25 PM
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I will be using an AXI2820/10. What would be the run time on a 3-cell 2500mAh Lipo, and on a 3300 3-cell Lipo? I am concerned with weight and price of the higher pack. Thanks
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Old Jan 09, 2007, 06:43 PM
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According the on calculators, the 2820-10, 11x6 APC, on 3-cells will pull (WOT) ~35 amps....<5 minutes WOT flying. My guess would be you'd get ~8 minutes with throttle control on the 3300 and ~6 on the 2500. Of course your flying times may be more or less depending on weight and throttle control.
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Old Jan 09, 2007, 08:07 PM
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Well I still think this is one great plane, however I HATE DECALS. I think putting on the decals took me longer than the assembly and I still ruined one of them.
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Old Jan 09, 2007, 09:36 PM
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I agree on the decals. I bought a airbrush and plan on pulling the decals as soon as I can come up with some cool design.
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Old Jan 09, 2007, 10:07 PM
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What has everyone else attached the LG?
I just smeared some Goop on the mount and shoved it into the foam. It's rock solid but in retrospect, I wished I hadn't even used the supplied LG or mount. It's just too flexy-bendy for me.

If I was to do it all over again, I'd glue a 4-5" 1/8 ply plate with a couple of blind nuts in it to the bottom of the plane and bolt a CF or aluminum LG to the plate with 8-32 nylon screws.

The nylon screws are pretty tough, but a hard landing will shear them.

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Old Jan 10, 2007, 12:08 AM
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According the on calculators, the 2820-10, 11x6 APC, on 3-cells will pull (WOT) ~35 amps....<5 minutes WOT flying. My guess would be you'd get ~8 minutes with throttle control on the 3300 and ~6 on the 2500. Of course your flying times may be more or less depending on weight and throttle control.
These figures are pretty pessimistic.

With the recommended drive, I measures the following figures:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=373

And during a 10 minute flight, I consumed only approx. 1600mAh:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=352

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Old Jan 10, 2007, 09:32 PM
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I can attest to what Jurgen quoted. I ran through 3 batteries today using the Himax motor. On the newer batteries, I averaged about 8 minutes using up 1350mAH of my TP2100s with moderate acrobatic flying (half throttle level, 3/4 throttle for loops, etc). Extrapolating to a 1600mAH (about all you'd want to take out of an 1800 with some spare power left over), you'd get 9.5 minutes. With the lighter weight of the 1800's and with gentle flying, you should be able to get 10 minutes or a little more.
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