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Old Jul 09, 2006, 10:16 AM
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What dirication should the rotor head tilt (roll) when you move the tx stick to the right? I thought I seen something on this at onetime. Could you give a quick explaintion on setting up the controls?
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Old Jul 09, 2006, 01:12 PM
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Excellent idea! I took my Twirl ( http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=450021 ) to the Blacksheep Squadron Electric Fun Fly yesterday and fielded "What is it?" and "How does it fly?" questions from several people.

Might be a good idea to add a bit to Item 1 about how 'gyros accomplish flight.

PM me if you need graphics for the sticky. I do both 2D graphics and 3D modelling for a living and I'd be more than glad to contribute in any way that I can.

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Old Jul 20, 2006, 11:28 PM
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Sticky Thread

Hi Mickey!

I think your "Sticky Thread" is great, and right down to the point,

I am wondering if you have added anay more to the original list.

The reason I am asking, as I am hosting this years Auto Gyro Get

Together , here in Illinois, at the city of Morris.

My thought was that copies would be made of the Sticky Thread,

and would be given out to Visitors, to answer some of the questions

that some of the visitors would have about the autogyros.

Of course I am asking for your permission , as this your idea

and you put the whole thread together.


With best regards!

Bernard Rozman


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Old Jul 31, 2006, 05:02 PM
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Please use whatever you want that I've written.
Others may speak for themselves.
I hope Morris goes (or went, I've been out of touch lately) well.
mickey
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Originally Posted by ropotulec
Hi Mickey!

I think your "Sticky Thread" is great, and right down to the point,

I am wondering if you have added anay more to the original list.

The reason I am asking, as I am hosting this years Auto Gyro Get

Together , here in Illinois, at the city of Morris.

My thought was that copies would be made of the Sticky Thread,

and would be given out to Visitors, to answer some of the questions

that some of the visitors would have about the autogyros.

Of course I am asking for your permission , as this your idea

and you put the whole thread together.


With best regards!

Bernard Rozman


www.reza-it.biz/gyro
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Old Aug 18, 2006, 05:30 PM
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Sticky Thread.

Hi Mickey!
Good to hear encouraging words Mickey, and to all the others that contributed to the sticky thread it is good to see updated information
that are to the point.

Mickey, if you are in the neighborhood if Illinois, the weekend after
Labor Day, please do stop by in Morris, if only to say hello.

Bernie

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Old Nov 08, 2006, 08:38 PM
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Mickey:
thanks for your job.I learn lots of knowledge about autogyro from your aticle
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Old Dec 05, 2006, 12:57 PM
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Mickey,
I'm just getting started with autogyros and many of the questions I had are answered in your listing. If it's not too late to add to the list here are two that I had at first:
What is the effect of shimming the heads too negative?

How tight should the blades be at the pivot point? Tight, just snug enough to find there own centers when rotaing, or really loose?

Frank
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Old Dec 05, 2006, 01:20 PM
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Mickey,
I'm just getting started with autogyros and many of the questions I had are answered in your listing. If it's not too late to add to the list here are two that I had at first:
What is the effect of shimming the heads too negative?

How tight should the blades be at the pivot point? Tight, just snug enough to find there own centers when rotaing, or really loose?

Frank
Too much negative results in a really speedy spoolup, the rotor will restart in the air quicker, but lower rotor speed and less lift than the optimum setting. I think too much negative is actually a pretty good place to test fly as long as you have enough lift to climb out.
I make my blades very tight. You can't stop them from finding their own centers generally, the centrifugal forces are just to high on most blades. Having the blades locked down improves spinup, if they are aligned when locked down. I tighten mine enough so they don't move when I give a hand spin, but where I can align them by hand with firm pressure.
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Old Dec 05, 2006, 01:22 PM
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I'd like to update #8 at the top of the thread.
Please add posts that include links to plans that are new
since I did the FAQ.
I think this would include whopper,twirl,micro/mini mum, etc.
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Old Dec 05, 2006, 05:30 PM
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Whopper plans (free)

Hi Mickey,
here is source for Whopper plans:

the plans:
http://www.vth.de/Modellbau/FMT/down..._downloads.asp
direct link to part1 and 2 of the plan:
http://www.vth.de/Modellbau/FMT/down...hopper%201.pdf
http://www.vth.de/Modellbau/FMT/down...hopper%202.pdf

link to the thread at rcgroups:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=487131

link to german thread incl. comments of creator:
http://www.rclineforum.de/forum/thre...7b3a355edcd0e9

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Old Dec 05, 2006, 06:52 PM
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Hi Mickey,
here is source for Whopper plans:

the plans:
http://www.vth.de/Modellbau/FMT/down..._downloads.asp
direct link to part1 and 2 of the plan:
http://www.vth.de/Modellbau/FMT/down...hopper%201.pdf
http://www.vth.de/Modellbau/FMT/down...hopper%202.pdf

link to the thread at rcgroups:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=487131

link to german thread incl. comments of creator:
http://www.rclineforum.de/forum/thre...7b3a355edcd0e9

Stephan
Thx, will add soon.
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Old Dec 21, 2006, 03:36 AM
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Mickey,

here's the link to the latest version of the Micromum plans:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=69

and this one is for the Minimum:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=543196
There's nothing new on the Minimum and won't be until I've build a ccw rotor and tested it.

Jochen
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Old Apr 16, 2007, 06:14 AM
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Classification

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=667388
copied from post no.8 by Mickey Nowell:

Quote:
Twin rotors : (easy flyers) Twirl or quadra twirl, Whopper, Slow G, Spin Doctor, Gyrace

Single rotors with stabs(more advanced) : ECDC, GyroShtick, PT Gyro family, DAG1, GT17, Mini/micromum (), RotorShape, Monotwirl

Single rotors, no stab (advanced): BEGi, G3PO
I believe this is usefull information, if you think about a new autogyro project. May help to find an autogyro matching your pilots skills.

In case, you ignored that skills-check and find yourselves with an autogyro beyond your skills, this thread may give you hope: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669085
It's about how to turn an expert ag into an intermediate and how you can learn to fly it. (work in progress, as i type.)

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Old May 20, 2007, 11:28 PM
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Is there an RTF autogyro?
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Old Aug 08, 2007, 10:14 AM
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Trust vectoring

Hello everybody!

First of all my thanks and congratulations to Mickey for this sticky.

I just have a question on you experts.

What do you think about trust vectoring a Gyro?
Is it possible/would it make sense?
Actually Iím thinking about an pusher configuration to go for that. But Iím not sure if an trust-vector-control is agile enough to control a Gyro!?

Thanks

Johannes
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