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Old Jan 09, 2006, 02:12 PM
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I got one motor that stops 3 seconds before the other. Maybee I should take it apart and lube it up??
I use sewing machine oil from WalMart.

In regards to the motors spinning differently on power down, is your motor trim set so the motors are in harmony at full throttle? The trim might be set so one motor is running faster than the other.
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Old Jan 09, 2006, 07:14 PM
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Tailless wonder

This has got to be he simplest mod to make, but produces an airplane that's interestingly different form the original.

Take the tail off, rearrange the wing a bit, and here you have it - an AeroAce flying wing.

Ari.
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Old Jan 09, 2006, 07:38 PM
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Looks neat! How does it fly?

Ron
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Old Jan 09, 2006, 08:01 PM
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Better than the original, believe it or not :=)

I have some video coming.

Ari.
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Old Jan 09, 2006, 09:27 PM
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Ah, so the question is still on the table. How about some more testers? Especially from AA's bought recently.

1. - Secure plane to table
2. - Advance throttle to 1/2 or there abouts.
3. - Turn off Tx with throttle in the same position it was in step 2.
4. - Do motors stop in a few seconds or do they continue to run?
bought one today and the motors stay on. they seem to step down in speed twice after 30 seconds or so. but they remain on.
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Old Jan 09, 2006, 09:31 PM
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This has got to be he simplest mod to make, but produces an airplane that's interestingly different form the original.

Take the tail off, rearrange the wing a bit, and here you have it - an AeroAce flying wing.

Ari.
how did you remove the paint from the top wing? it dosnt look like you sanded it
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Old Jan 09, 2006, 09:42 PM
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Pete, i thought about that too. but, i've accidently plugged the battery in backwards a number of times over the months (shame on me for not using the polarized plugs!). the times in the past when i did that, it did the same thing, but after plugging it in the right way, it worked fine. maybe i did it one too many times.

Bill, whos email address?

nick
Sorry nick
I meant to quote hoppy in that post.
I was refering message #31 from hoppy.
Bill
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Old Jan 09, 2006, 10:35 PM
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how did you remove the paint from the top wing? it dosnt look like you sanded it
I didn't :=) This particular plane came with silver coats on both the top and the bottom wings.

Ari.
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Old Jan 09, 2006, 10:58 PM
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bought one today and the motors stay on. they seem to step down in speed twice after 30 seconds or so. but they remain on.
Very Interesting....
Mine definitely shuts off in under 2 sec with a new and old TX so the shutdown control must be in the RX. Is mine just an anomaly? Do I have the only AA in existence with fail safe electronics?

On the diode mod - It seems to have another advantage. After the mod, the plane does not seem to lose altitude during turns. Anyone else notice that? I'm guessing it's due to the difference in motor speed from the stock.

Another observation: Turning the motors so they are parallel with the wing makes the plane climb more then with the motors pointing straight back. My guess is that the motors pointing in more when parallel with the wing put more air pressure on the upper surface of the horizontal stabilizer causing
the plane to climb.
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Old Jan 09, 2006, 11:09 PM
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Any plans/sketches??
No plans or sketches but only dimensions, hopefully that helps.

Wingspan: 15 inches (not 14" as mentioned earlier)
Wing chord: 3.5 inches
TE & LE height: 1.5 inch
About 15-20 degree dihedral

Fuse length: 12 inches
Stabilizer: 8 inches


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Old Jan 10, 2006, 02:43 AM
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Tailless video

It was a bit windy on Sunday when Chris shot the video - too windy in fact for my piloting skill. On the next flight the wind carried it over a fence and we spent the next hour figuring out how to scale it. I'll try to get better video on a calmer day. When there is no wind the plane is stable and responsive. http://www.lib.aero/~ari/rc/tailless-wonder.avi
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Old Jan 10, 2006, 07:37 AM
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Looks like a keeper (iter)! I notice that the AA seems to fly much faster with the new wing pattern mod.

Ron
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Old Jan 10, 2006, 09:45 AM
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Whew! After a marathon thread reading session, I have finally read all the posts in thread 1 and 2. I came across the Aeroace at the local Wal-Mart on Sunday and decided to see what was written about it on RC Groups before purchasing. Now I think I'll be heading there tonight to pick one up. Wish I had last night as it's dead calm here and I'm home with a sick son and nothing to do except make soup.

So many interesting models for the hardware - where to begin? I actually like Iter's model for it's unique looks and easy of construction. I'll probably go with that until I grow tired and then either mod an existing free flight foamy or scratch something.

Thanks to all who have posted and inspired!

Steve
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Old Jan 10, 2006, 10:59 AM
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hi guys,these little planes look awesome for relaxing and chucking out of my bedroom window in the middle of the night for some night flying!

wheres best to get one in the uk?i started looking for the info but the last thread is so huge i couldnt find it.

also,which plane is prefered by most,the single wing or bipe?

thanks
luke
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Old Jan 10, 2006, 12:08 PM
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iter:

I would like to try making a flying wing as shown in your picture.

It looks like you have added reflex to the outboard sections.

How far back from the leading edge of the main wing did you attach them and at what angle ?

Thanks in advance.
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