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Old Oct 19, 2006, 08:08 AM
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October Madness Sale

HL has an October Madness sale. The Atlas Outrunners are priced within a couple bucks of the best Crash sale on them - $31.60.

One thing is confusing, they compare the
2308/11 to an AXI 2208-26 and a 2308/14 to a 2208-34.
But they the props they list for the 2308/11 are the same as a 2208-34 and
the props for the 2308/14 are the same as a 2208-26.
Does the 11 denote 1100 Kv? Wouldn't that make it more like the 2208-34?
Has HL got the Axi comparisons switched?

How would the 2308/14 push a Microjet? Or would an Aircraft-World VL be a better choice?
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Old Oct 19, 2006, 08:28 AM
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What I don't understand is what is the point of purchasing these atlans outrunners for 31 or 36 dollars when all they are rated to is 18 oz planes and you can get the same performance/thrust from an esskay 400xt for 17.00? Also these outrunners (axi's ) require 14.00 or 18.00 mounts which the esskay doesn't? So your paying about 3 times more for an atlas then you would for the comparable esskay. Can you tell I like the esskay's, I have 5! LOL
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Old Oct 19, 2006, 08:38 AM
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What I don't understand is what is the point of purchasing these atlans outrunners for 31 or 36 dollars when all they are rated to is 18 oz planes and you can get the same performance/thrust from an esskay 400xt for 17.00? Also these outrunners (axi's ) require 14.00 or 18.00 mounts which the esskay doesn't? So your paying about 3 times more for an atlas then you would for the comparable esskay. Can you tell I like the esskay's, I have 5! LOL
The Atlas comes with some extra hardware. The Atlas is listed as good to 12A or 14A depending on model. The 400xt is listed as good to 10A. So does either Atlas and the 400xt have the same Kv and power output?
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Old Oct 19, 2006, 09:29 AM
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The tail numbers on the AXIs stands for number of winds. Utterly useless, if you ask me. A wider (first 2 numbers) and deeper (next two numbers), will lower the kV, so you can get the same kV with fewer winds (the last two numbers).

An AXI 2308/11 will have close to the same kV as the AXI 2208-26, but it can handle more current at the cost of being a little heavier.

I'm not familiar with the Atlas series, but the 400XT is not the most efficient motor. Yes, it has power, but it spits out a bit of heat, too. However, for $18 it is still massive bang for the buck! Motors and batteries have reached a point were efficiency isn't as critical as it use to be.

About the BlueArrow Receivers: it's not a case of a faulty batch, it's just a cheap design! Those things do not handle noise at all. They're worse than the GWS Pico (and that's pretty bad if you ask me). Sure, they seem to work well in an open field, but they can't handle any kind of proximity RF noise (adjacent freqs, radio towers, etc). They work well for those that fly in the open plains of Texas, not Bay Area victims lile me!

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Old Oct 19, 2006, 11:45 AM
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Has anyone tried the Blue Arrow servos? Seem like a good price but I wonder about quality.
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Old Oct 19, 2006, 12:00 PM
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Hey guys,
We did get the comparisons backwards. We're changing it right now.

Jason Cole
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HL has an October Madness sale. The Atlas Outrunners are priced within a couple bucks of the best Crash sale on them - $31.60.

One thing is confusing, they compare the
2308/11 to an AXI 2208-26 and a 2308/14 to a 2208-34.
But they the props they list for the 2308/11 are the same as a 2208-34 and
the props for the 2308/14 are the same as a 2208-26.
Does the 11 denote 1100 Kv? Wouldn't that make it more like the 2208-34?
Has HL got the Axi comparisons switched?

How would the 2308/14 push a Microjet? Or would an Aircraft-World VL be a better choice?
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Old Oct 19, 2006, 12:28 PM
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The Atlas comes with some extra hardware. The Atlas is listed as good to 12A or 14A depending on model. The 400xt is listed as good to 10A. So does either Atlas and the 400xt have the same Kv and power output?
RC:

I'm sure yuor correct, however, I'm a best bang for the buck kind of person, and IMHO the esskay is a much better value. Especially, if you have to pay additionally for a mount for the atlas. Just my 2 cents!
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Old Oct 19, 2006, 01:59 PM
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RC:

I'm sure yuor correct, however, I'm a best bang for the buck kind of person, and IMHO the esskay is a much better value. Especially, if you have to pay additionally for a mount for the atlas. Just my 2 cents!

The atlas comes with a cross mount. In my opinion I like the atlas more. The Esskay is okay but I did not like how heavy it was and it seemed to get hot fast.

But if you want to save some dough it does do that.

Steve
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Old Oct 19, 2006, 02:51 PM
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I found the Esskay to be small and not heavy at all. Properly propped, the motor does not overheat. In my opinion, Hobby Lobby underates the power this motor produces when propped properly. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Oct 19, 2006, 03:21 PM
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I loved my SK400XT(s) (plural, cause I have several). But since I discovered the TP/BP 21, wow! Lots more power, speed. And I like the ELE 28-L pretty well, too. All of have one thing in common - they're cheap! (like me )
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Old Oct 19, 2006, 04:34 PM
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We did get the comparisons backwards. We're changing it right now.

Jason Cole
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Well, that sucks. I guess that means I have the wrong one coming to me.
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Old Oct 19, 2006, 04:45 PM
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The atlas comes with a cross mount. In my opinion I like the atlas more. The Esskay is okay but I did not like how heavy it was and it seemed to get hot fast.

But if you want to save some dough it does do that.

Steve
Steve;

I didn't know it came with the cross mount, however, my esskay's have never overheated. I run them with apc 8x6 and they do super for small planes to 18 ozs. I do like saving dough, as you point out, and if I had my ruthers, I'd get a mid sized motor, like for a 2 to 3 lb. plane. I have small motors and I have big motors, like 6 lb. planes, need more variety!!
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Old Oct 19, 2006, 04:47 PM
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I loved my SK400XT(s) (plural, cause I have several). But since I discovered the TP/BP 21, wow! Lots more power, speed. And I like the ELE 28-L pretty well, too. All of have one thing in common - they're cheap! (like me )
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Bil:

You like the bp 21 that much more? Where do you get them, how much? Thanks. Henry
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Old Oct 19, 2006, 05:14 PM
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Wish I needed a new motor, because $37 for the 2208/34 is a NICE price!
As for the Blue Arrow receiver.....eeehhhh, it would be a bad idea to even give those away, as it will give you a bad reputation. Those things barely meet the quality of Toys-R-Us RC toys.

- Jim

Hobby Lobby... Eric, Jason or anybody. I'm a Hobby Lobby fan but IMHO you are losing credibility as you continue to sell these garbage Blue Arrow receivers at any price. I believe that many don't get sent back to you even though they should be. "Toys-R-Us quatity" is right. Even when there Good there Bad.

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Old Oct 19, 2006, 06:09 PM
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You like the bp 21 that much more? Where do you get them, how much? Thanks. Henry
Yeah, I do like it more. One fella here was selling them to me 2 for $25 shipped. Another guy on Ebay has 'em for about $10-12 shipped each. With an 8x5HD/DD prop the increase in speed in my profiles was incerdible to me. I'll try to find the links and pm 'em to you.
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