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Old Nov 18, 2005, 03:52 PM
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How well do your micro heli's fly in the wind?

I have an Esky FP with 2s 900's, pretty much stock to the Mark 2 specs of the Hobby Lobby version (head stiffener, ball in swash, longer tail boom).

This heli stuff is addicting! I've done over 120 flights in the past six weeks, haven't even touched a plane in that time!

Don't get me wrong, this is a great little copter for the price.

My AUW is 8.6oz, my only point of clarification is, these things are real squirrely in ANY kind of wind, aren't they? Its not just me, but anything over 5mph affects them quite a bit, and even gusts under 5mph can be noticeable.

I've been told that when I move up to the Hornets (and 3dpro I'm going to modify for belt drive) that they handle wind much better.

I was just looking for input, because I'm getting a feel for how often I'll be able to fly, since where we live its pretty windy in daytime hours, so I've been flying indoors (a no-no with the cp ships) and early in the morning and after dark outside, except for occasional days when its calm outside.
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Old Nov 18, 2005, 04:11 PM
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Higher headspeed helps the most, alongside of getting the hang of flying in wind of course. trim down your stock blades if possible (or purchase sportier blades) and increase pinion size. The next step after that if you want greater control in wind is to go brushless.

I fly a 255 gram micro FP heli in winds quite often (dont know the wind speed, but it could be around 10 mph?) and it can make for a bit of extra fun with really quick down wind speeds . Watch out for gusts though, particularly when they drop - you can end up hitting the deck rather promptly
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Old Nov 18, 2005, 04:26 PM
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I have an Esky FP with 2s 900's, pretty much stock to the Mark 2 specs of the Hobby Lobby version (head stiffener, ball in swash, longer tail boom).

This heli stuff is addicting! I've done over 120 flights in the past six weeks, haven't even touched a plane in that time!

Don't get me wrong, this is a great little copter for the price.

My AUW is 8.6oz, my only point of clarification is, these things are real squirrely in ANY kind of wind, aren't they? Its not just me, but anything over 5mph affects them quite a bit, and even gusts under 5mph can be noticeable.

I've been told that when I move up to the Hornets (and 3dpro I'm going to modify for belt drive) that they handle wind much better.

I was just looking for input, because I'm getting a feel for how often I'll be able to fly, since where we live its pretty windy in daytime hours, so I've been flying indoors (a no-no with the cp ships) and early in the morning and after dark outside, except for occasional days when its calm outside.
About time you uprade to a TRex. Even though I have a TRex I still fly my HB FP2 in a 10x10 room when it is too windy outside. The skills learned are transferable between the two for sure.

Damn nose in hover
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Old Nov 18, 2005, 05:16 PM
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When I go to fun fly's nowadays I pray for at least some high winds so I can take up my MaxiR where "lesser" micro-heli's fear to tread and show off just how well it handles the wind

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Old Nov 18, 2005, 05:31 PM
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They are pigs to fly in the wind. I have to hand it to the pilots that can do this.
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Old Nov 18, 2005, 05:35 PM
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My T-Rex flies just fine in the wind, my Dragonfly does not. Headspeed and collective pitch makes all the difference.
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Old Nov 18, 2005, 06:29 PM
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I got the Blade CP And its a bunch to handle in the wind and it has Collective pitch.
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Old Nov 18, 2005, 07:10 PM
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My T-Rex flies just fine in the wind, my Dragonfly does not. Headspeed and collective pitch makes all the difference.

What is your T-Rex headspeed and pitch setup for windy conditions?
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Old Nov 18, 2005, 07:16 PM
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I got the Blade CP And its a bunch to handle in the wind and it has Collective pitch.
I have the Blade CP and the Lama XRP. What a difference for wind. The Lama needs 0mph wind; well maybe 1mph would be OK. When you fly the Lama at max forward speed it 'lifts up' and oscillates like it is dangling from a string, even without wind. The Lama is fun indoors but pretty easy to get bored, no challenge to it and it doesn't do much other than 'hang there'. The BCP handles wind pretty well (probably not like the Trex tho). The only problem I find is that going downwind it goes so fast that you can get out of visual range quickly.
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Old Nov 18, 2005, 08:47 PM
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Small FPs need brushless (power) and lower pitch stiff blades to fly in wind. This means more head speed to fly (better stability) and improved responsiveness. Shortening the flybar a little helps - and using 2mm piano wire instead of CF.

Like90 blades work well in wind up to 10 mph in my experience... more experienced pilots fly in more wind than this.

Biggest challenges is getting the heli back down - banked turns are the only real option as backing off the throttle just kills HS and makes the rig unresponsive.


... and then you move to a small CP. Trex in my case. Generally I check the weather and I don't go to the field if its more than 12- 14 mph, but I've flown in 20mph with gusts. Flies fine but landing can be interesting.
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Old Nov 19, 2005, 04:37 AM
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What is your T-Rex headspeed and pitch setup for windy conditions?
I don't have any special setup for that, I just fly . Haven't measured the head speed, but in theory it should be a little above 2600, so it's probably 24-2500 in practice. Pitch is -10 to +10, I always fly in Idle Up to get used to it, and only use normal mode to spin up and down on the ground.
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Old Nov 19, 2005, 04:58 AM
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Wind makes for great fun as long as the heli is strong and
controlable enough. I had my 2nd flight with my shogun in
good 15mph winds. Was gonna rain and I couldnt wait to
get a flight in. Took it out and took off, got alot of bobbing
up and down and found myself constantly on the collective.
Flew straight into the wind most the time for a more easy
simple flight. Im still new and have yet to get used to nose
in flight. I dunno though. Ive always looked forward to some
wind as long as I dont break anything. When learning inside
my uncles body shop I used to fly against the fans with my
Eco Piccolo with a Astro 10 and 3-1 board. Funs stuff but
all comes down to the helis control authority against the wind
imo. Be carefull guys, A Mayday is the last thing ya need.
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Old Nov 19, 2005, 07:52 AM
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Im the same as Rickenbacker, Dragonfly was terrible in wind, BL and woodies helps but stil..

Trex will fly in anything. 2400 HS, +/-11, 325 - 335 woodies or 320 carbon.
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Old Nov 19, 2005, 09:14 AM
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The most wind so far for my 3d pro was 23 gusting 29. It did very well. I have a mini wing that I normally use for wind flying and I would say that the 3d pro was comparable.
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Old Nov 19, 2005, 10:33 AM
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I have a Hummingbird and Corona and they are both terrible in the wind. My new T-Rex is excellent in the wind I think its time to dump some of my other helicopters.

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