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Old Nov 07, 2005, 05:14 PM
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It is NOT the same motor as the hobbico free-flight model.

With my 2 cell pack (kokam 340) it draws right around 3 amps at max throttle on the bench.

-Ralph-
Besides motor change and prehinged controls what are other major changes from the hobbico counterparts?
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Old Nov 07, 2005, 05:37 PM
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Besides motor change and prehinged controls what are other major changes from the hobbico counterparts?
What do you mean prehinged controls? You have to hinge the control surfaces yourself...and setup the control rods too.

The big difference from the hobbico counterpart in my mind is it's made to be built for r/c. You don't have to cut it open, you don't have to dig out the stock motor and replace it with a better one. The wing snaps are also nice, my friend had a hard landing and instead of breaking a wing it just snapped free and was pretty much undamaged...it might be stronger than the hobbico model...TBD.

-Ralph-
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Old Nov 07, 2005, 05:45 PM
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Re the small servo's the "lexi" looks good if only one can find where to buy them http://www.rcmart.com.tw/1.htm good work by the way guys,maybe someone will stock here in OZ. it will be interesting to see wich will be the best handling flyer.
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Old Nov 07, 2005, 05:46 PM
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Those are some great looking planes. I remember reading about them earlier this year and wondering when they would finally be available.

Where does one get one (or two)?

Kim
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Old Nov 07, 2005, 05:48 PM
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Those are some great looking planes. I remember reading about them earlier this year and wondering when they would finally be available.

Where does one get one (or two)?

Kim
http://www.coxmodels.com/

Collect them all!!!

-Ralph-
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Old Nov 07, 2005, 06:47 PM
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Friend here

I'm Ralphs' friend that built the Spitfire, P-47 and Corsair.
I have also built several Hobbico Zeroes and a P-51.
The Zero had a Feigao 1208430S with an IPS S2 gearbox, and
the power was pretty good. The P-51 has a CD-ROM from
GoBrushless rewound with 17 turns. It has considerably more
power than either the Feigao or the stock Cox motor.
The Cox 130 motor is perfectly adequate, though. Not vertical
performance, but decent climb. I've been flying with an Etec 250
2 cell, but it is only rated 1.5 amps, and I measured the Cox at 2.4 amps.
Today I ordered some 350 12C packs, we'll try those.
As far as quality, the Cox planes are very nice. The finish and the decals
are very high quality. The scale is also good, much better than the
pictures on the Cox web site.
I definitely will try ailerons on the P-40, but it will be a little bit
tricky due to the wing attachment getting in the way.
The Hobbico P-51 has ailerons, and is very aerobatic.
The attention to detail is great, even to a different spinner or hub
on all four different models, though the props are identical. The Corsair
and P-47 even include a simulated radial engine, and all have a clear plastic
vacuum-formed nose guard that fits nicely on the bottom of the nose.
In short, I am super impressed.
No, I am not related to anyone in the Cox organization. Bummer!
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Old Nov 07, 2005, 07:44 PM
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I'm Ralphs' friend that built the Spitfire, P-47 and Corsair.
I have also built several Hobbico Zeroes and a P-51.
The Zero had a Feigao 1208430S with an IPS S2 gearbox, and
the power was pretty good. The P-51 has a CD-ROM from
GoBrushless rewound with 17 turns. It has considerably more
power than either the Feigao or the stock Cox motor.
The Cox 130 motor is perfectly adequate, though. Not vertical
performance, but decent climb. I've been flying with an Etec 250
2 cell, but it is only rated 1.5 amps, and I measured the Cox at 2.4 amps.
Today I ordered some 350 12C packs, we'll try those.
As far as quality, the Cox planes are very nice. The finish and the decals
are very high quality. The scale is also good, much better than the
pictures on the Cox web site.
I definitely will try ailerons on the P-40, but it will be a little bit
tricky due to the wing attachment getting in the way.
The Hobbico P-51 has ailerons, and is very aerobatic.
The attention to detail is great, even to a different spinner or hub
on all four different models, though the props are identical. The Corsair
and P-47 even include a simulated radial engine, and all have a clear plastic
vacuum-formed nose guard that fits nicely on the bottom of the nose.
In short, I am super impressed.
No, I am not related to anyone in the Cox organization. Bummer!

We are all drooling. Videos videos videos videos!
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Old Nov 07, 2005, 08:57 PM
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I just ordered the Spitfire. Battle of Britain at the local soccer fields!! (need an ME109 now)
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Old Nov 07, 2005, 09:24 PM
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I emailed Cox asking for some German and Japanese warbirds. Just to round things out ya know....
Rick
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Old Nov 07, 2005, 09:45 PM
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I emailed Cox asking for some German and Japanese warbirds. Just to round things out ya know....
Rick
Maybe some micro twins as well. I see Hobbico has a Mosquito coming next year.
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Old Nov 07, 2005, 09:48 PM
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A Mosquito would rock. I'm really excited about all this. Cheap fun warbirds. Doesn't get any better.

Where did you see the Mosquito?
Rick
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 01:47 AM
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A Mosquito would rock. I'm really excited about all this. Cheap fun warbirds. Doesn't get any better.

Where did you see the Mosquito?
Rick
Towerhobbies website:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXKAF6&P=0
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 02:03 AM
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StCalvin, Take a look at this. And on Cox's site! And at a great price!
I plan on getting one of these. What a deal. 19.99 for a single channel RTF
23.5 WS
It says it is a T6 Texan . I believe it to be a Zero in American trainer paint scheme.

Does anyone concur?

Robert
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 07:05 AM
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Sort of like the movie 'Tora, Tora ,Tora' in reverse..
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 09:27 AM
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Cox Micro Warbirds

Hi...my name is Mike Fritz. I'm the product manager for the Cox Hobbies product line and the Micro Warbird series has been one of my projects. I am very please to see that now that the models are available that they are being enjoyed and you all are looking for ways to modify them, which is great. I am going to state up front that I am only going to occasionally monitor the theads about these fun little airplanes. I simply don't have the time (new things being worked on) to keep up on the improvements to the series. However, I did want to tell you that I am very interested in learning about what new performance changes you guys make. I also wanted to telly you about a few things we have done.
- The motor is rated for 7.2 volts. It is not the free flight motor.
- We have tried ailerons, first on the Mustang. However, to keep the weight down we used small diameter wire (torque rod style), which flexed to much from the center mounted servo. Also, we tried (perhaps incorrectly) to use an aileron size slightly larger than the scale aileron outline. This proved to be ineffective and that is why there is no reference to making the aileron mod. Perhaps a larger control surface, maybe a strip aileron type would work better. Just didn't have enough time to complete that change.
- We have only tested the Astro Flight 799/C Firefly Coreless Motor with 4.1 Planetary gear box and supplied propeller. This was installed in the Corsair and P-47 because it required no rework to the spinners. Both models had 2 cell, 280 - 340 lipos and performance was...well...they were really quick and the bigger prop looked, well...way cool. We fly at 5,800' MSL, so if we get a model to perform well up here, we assume that it only improves at the lower altitudes.
Last summer I attended the 2005 Electric National Championships at Muncie. I took a stock Corsair and flew it in the evenings. At the 900' MSL at Muncie the model came alive...loops from level were easy to do, grass clipping fly bys with good pull outs were fun...inverted flight is still not possible, but the model was a hoot to fly. I passed the transmitter to a few of the contestests there and they all agreed it was fun to fly and had a good visual appearance.
Anyway, thanks for a good reception of the product. I will keep and eye out for the improvements that are going to be the by products of everyones continued interest.
Regards,
Mike Fritz
Cox Hobies
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