ParkZone Stryker & P-51: Finally, a Painless Brushless Upgrade!

Mr.RC-CAM · Oct 18, 2005, 11:59 AM

PowerZone Brushless Adapter Project Updates:
10-29-2005: PowerZone price & ordering info is found here: Click For Details.
10-18-2005: Stryker/P-51 instructions are found here: Click Me.
08-08-2006: Generic installation instructions are found here: Click Me.
10-28-2005: Blade Micro-Heli Brushless tailrotor conversion project: Brushless Blade E Z Upgrade
10-30-2006: Photos that show how to install the PowerZone into a Walkera micro heli are posted here (these photos are helpful in other model heli installations too): Brushless Walkera Upgrade
12-12-2006: Brushless heli users that experience an odd high-stick throttle problem should contact me for the free V1.2 firmware upgrade. Details: Blade Cp Brushless Problem
02-01-2007: Version 1.3 now available. New DSP filtering eliminates glitchy operation on models that have "noisy" ESC signals.
11-11-2007: Yes, PowerZone is still available.

Start of original discussion:
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What if I said that you can upgrade your Stryker/P-51 to brushless *without* replacing the ParkZone R/C system? You know, keep the servos and Rx and just slap on a new brushless motor and controller. Fast and easy. And the X-Port interface still works, so you can still use the popular combat module and other X-port accessories. How does that sound?

All it takes is a little interface board that is slightly bigger than a US dime. The board has a standard servo connector on it that the Brushless ESC plugs into. It also has a single wire that goes to the original black motor lead. That is all there is to it. You can use any regular Brushless ESC that has a BEC (the popular Phoenix 25 is a reasonable choice for these models).

I'm working on pricing (it will be under $30 or so) and I will be releasing it in a few days. In the meantime, let's have a contest to name the new brushless interface board. Keep in mind that it is small, easy to use, and works only with the ParkZone Stryker and ParkZone P-51 R/C system.

So far I'm leaning towards "JetPac." However, I'll bet one of you folks can do better. If I use your name entry, you will earn one of these little boards at no charge (Free, nada).

For more name-it inspiration, below is a photo of the brushless interface board.

Travy · Oct 18, 2005, 12:13 PM

It sounds great. I assume you have tested it? I don't get how it works tho because the ESC that is connected to the RX in the stryker will try to LVC too late right? Or does the brushless ESC override it?

I'd have to see it completely hooked up but if it works, that's pretty cool.

rutat · Oct 18, 2005, 12:35 PM

I'll start...

Speedzone
Zonelink
ZoneControl ( I kinda like that one best)

I'm sure I can think up a few more.

Neat idea, BTW. Out of curiosity could this thing convert a normal (ie. Castle Creations) ESC to handle a brushless?

Mr.RC-CAM · Oct 18, 2005, 12:47 PM

Quote:

I don't get how it works tho because the ESC that is connected to the RX in the stryker will try to LVC too late right? Or does the brushless ESC override it?

The LVC is actually determined by the new brushless ESC's settings. FWIW, the early ParkZone Rx's did not seem to have a true LVC and will operate down to very low voltages (mine goes below 5V). The newest Rx's have a LVC that provides 5.7V and 8.8V cutoffs. Just set the Rx jumper to 5.7V and program the intended LVC into the ESC instead. BTW, do not exceed a 3-cell LiPO or the servo life might be reduced.

All the features of your chosen brushless ESC are still supported. Things like LVC, prop braking, softstart, and the like, all work according to the ESC's original instructions.

Quote:

Out of curiosity could this thing convert a normal (ie. Castle Creations) ESC to handle a brushless?

It is specifically designed for the special R/C system that is used on the Stryker and P-51. ParkZone may introduce more models with this particular radio system, but until then, that is all it will work with.

hlondono111 · Oct 18, 2005, 12:48 PM

How about:
parkzone speedfreak

Mr.RC-CAM · Oct 18, 2005, 04:05 PM

Those are some great product names! Keep 'em coming. I'll keep the contest open for a few days and then announce a winner.

FLYWINGFAN · Oct 18, 2005, 04:22 PM

Awesome!

P-Link
Turbo-Link
EZ-UpgradeLink
P-Converter
Saver-Link
PZ-linx

Sam

rutat · Oct 18, 2005, 04:24 PM

Afterburner
Hot Button (based on size)
Hot Zone

JustFly · Oct 18, 2005, 04:32 PM

How about Outa'-the-parkzone

Moncho · Oct 18, 2005, 05:18 PM

Brushmax
Ultimax
Minimax

(I like the -max suffix)

gouda · Oct 18, 2005, 06:33 PM

BIT

(Burshless interface technology)

OGMD (OGGMOD)

(Upgradeable motor device)

defcon1 · Oct 18, 2005, 07:22 PM

How about Pro-Pack. Since it take a proprietary system and coverts into a power packed system.
Alternatively
Speed Plus
Flug plug
Jet Chip
And to steal a little from gouda
Bit Chip
Congrates on showing some excellent ingenuity

Caliber5 · Oct 18, 2005, 07:24 PM

Brushcutter
Brushminator
C U Later
Above the Brush
Brushstryker
Brushless Park

slo_dave · Oct 18, 2005, 08:00 PM

How about

The Lipogater

Silent · Oct 18, 2005, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slo_dave

How about

The Lipogater

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice!

Oct 18, 2005, 11:59 AM	#1
Mr.RC-CAM Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: USA Posts: 4,933	ParkZone Stryker & P-51: Finally, a Painless Brushless Upgrade! PowerZone Brushless Adapter Project Updates: 10-29-2005: PowerZone price & ordering info is found here: Click For Details. 10-18-2005: Stryker/P-51 instructions are found here: Click Me. 08-08-2006: Generic installation instructions are found here: Click Me. 10-28-2005: Blade Micro-Heli Brushless tailrotor conversion project: Brushless Blade E Z Upgrade 10-30-2006: Photos that show how to install the PowerZone into a Walkera micro heli are posted here (these photos are helpful in other model heli installations too): Brushless Walkera Upgrade 12-12-2006: Brushless heli users that experience an odd high-stick throttle problem should contact me for the free V1.2 firmware upgrade. Details: Blade Cp Brushless Problem 02-01-2007: Version 1.3 now available. New DSP filtering eliminates glitchy operation on models that have "noisy" ESC signals. 11-11-2007: Yes, PowerZone is still available. Start of original discussion: ************************************************ **** What if I said that you can upgrade your Stryker/P-51 to brushless without replacing the ParkZone R/C system? You know, keep the servos and Rx and just slap on a new brushless motor and controller. Fast and easy. And the X-Port interface still works, so you can still use the popular combat module and other X-port accessories. How does that sound? All it takes is a little interface board that is slightly bigger than a US dime. The board has a standard servo connector on it that the Brushless ESC plugs into. It also has a single wire that goes to the original black motor lead. That is all there is to it. You can use any regular Brushless ESC that has a BEC (the popular Phoenix 25 is a reasonable choice for these models). I'm working on pricing (it will be under $30 or so) and I will be releasing it in a few days. In the meantime, let's have a contest to name the new brushless interface board. Keep in mind that it is small, easy to use, and works only with the ParkZone Stryker and ParkZone P-51 R/C system. So far I'm leaning towards "JetPac." However, I'll bet one of you folks can do better. If I use your name entry, you will earn one of these little boards at no charge (Free, nada). For more name-it inspiration, below is a photo of the brushless interface board. Attached Thumbnails 86.4 KB · Views: 1482 Last edited by Mr.RC-CAM; Nov 12, 2007 at 02:24 AM. Reason: Added Firmware Upgrade Info

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Travy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 949	It sounds great. I assume you have tested it? I don't get how it works tho because the ESC that is connected to the RX in the stryker will try to LVC too late right? Or does the brushless ESC override it? I'd have to see it completely hooked up but if it works, that's pretty cool.

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rutat Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,236	I'll start... Speedzone Zonelink ZoneControl ( I kinda like that one best) I'm sure I can think up a few more. Neat idea, BTW. Out of curiosity could this thing convert a normal (ie. Castle Creations) ESC to handle a brushless?

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