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Old Oct 14, 2005, 11:11 AM
byrocat
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RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.

No comments about what happened (a shame but it's a business at the
root).

Are they still taking orders and shipping plans?

Old Oct 14, 2005, 03:11 PM
Mr Akimoto
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Re: RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.

I keep wondering why it's a shame that RCM went out of business? They
didn't change with the times to meet the needs of the modern modeler
who likely isn't into gluing pieces of balsa together. Those who have
such arcane interests are a dying breed any way, and it isn't like they
are really being left high and dry without any plan services. There are
still plenty of plans available from places like Cleveland Models.

Also I wonder why any old time modeler would need a plan service? You'd
think they they'd acquire the knowledge and develop the ability to
design and build without specifications.

Ciao,

Mr Akimoto

Old Oct 14, 2005, 04:58 PM
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Ah, but with plans, it is SO much easier

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Old Oct 14, 2005, 05:11 PM
Ima Heinemann
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Re: RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.


"Mr Akimoto" <Mr_Akimoto@excite.com> wrote in message
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>I keep wondering why it's a shame that RCM went out of business? They
> didn't change with the times to meet the needs of the modern modeler
> who likely isn't into gluing pieces of balsa together. Those who have
> such arcane interests are a dying breed any way, and it isn't like they
> are really being left high and dry without any plan services. There are
> still plenty of plans available from places like Cleveland Models.
>
> Also I wonder why any old time modeler would need a plan service? You'd
> think they they'd acquire the knowledge and develop the ability to
> design and build without specifications.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Mr Akimoto
>



Sometimes older individuals like to attempt to relive their past by building
old favorite models from plans.

There are many more of we older/arcane types than you might believe.
Granted, lots of us assemble (not build) and fly ARFs these days, but we
still glue a few sticks together now and then.

I am sure that someone will make those plans available again. Why? There is
money to be made, that is why.

After the current generation of youngsters gets a little older and quits
flying altogether, the next generation will consider the previous
generation's ARFs and RTFs stupid and uncool. All that will be left will be
the real modelers (all ages) that just love to build and fly.

Ed Cregger


Old Oct 14, 2005, 07:11 PM
Ed Cregger
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Re: RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.


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> Ah, but with plans, it is SO much easier
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> Jerry
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I'll bet that I could build a fairly accurate replica of several airplanes,
just from memory and with no plans whatsoever. I'll bet you, and many
others, could too.

Ed Cregger


Old Oct 14, 2005, 07:11 PM
Don Bowey
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Re: RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.

On 10/14/05 11:16 AM, in article
1129313809.636799.150720@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups. com, "Mr Akimoto"
<Mr_Akimoto@excite.com> wrote:

> I keep wondering why it's a shame that RCM went out of business? They
> didn't change with the times to meet the needs of the modern modeler
> who likely isn't into gluing pieces of balsa together. Those who have
> such arcane interests are a dying breed any way, and it isn't like they
> are really being left high and dry without any plan services. There are
> still plenty of plans available from places like Cleveland Models.
>
> Also I wonder why any old time modeler would need a plan service? You'd
> think they they'd acquire the knowledge and develop the ability to
> design and build without specifications.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Mr Akimoto
>


You are a clueless waste of bandwidth.

Old Oct 14, 2005, 07:11 PM
Bill Sheppard
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Re: RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.

From Ed Cregger:

>I'll bet that I could build a fairly accurate
>replica of several airplanes, just from
>memory and with no plans whatsoever.
>I'll bet you, and many others, could too.


Check out the 'Batwing' plane. Though not a replica of anything, it was
scratchbuilt from no plans whatsoever, and flies incredibly well.
Http://community-2.webtv.net/oldcoot/TurboTipsyand

One wonders if Mr.Tojimoto can scratchbuild anything, or do signifigant
mods/upgrades to existing models.

Bill(oc)

Old Oct 14, 2005, 07:44 PM
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I'm no old timer as Mr. Tojimoto puts it, but I got to say being able to build does have its advantages. How many times have you seen a perfectly good, but slightly damaged plane in the garbage? And at our field anyways, one hears the phrase "I wish I could build..." alot. Besides, for something truely different, one must be able to build from plans, or design one from scratch.

So is the RCM plans service still working? I've always wanted a Dirty Birdy among others in high school, but at that age there were other more pressing needs
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Old Oct 14, 2005, 09:11 PM
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Re: RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.


"Mr Akimoto" <Mr_Akimoto@excite.com> wrote in message
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>I keep wondering why it's a shame that RCM went out of business? They
> didn't change with the times to meet the needs of the modern modeler
> who likely isn't into gluing pieces of balsa together. Those who have
> such arcane interests are a dying breed any way, and it isn't like they
> are really being left high and dry without any plan services. There are
> still plenty of plans available from places like Cleveland Models.
>
> Also I wonder why any old time modeler would need a plan service? You'd
> think they they'd acquire the knowledge and develop the ability to
> design and build without specifications.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Mr Akimoto
>


If you don't build, you're not a modeler. Nothing against those who only
want to fly, but they're fliers, not modelers. Why should anyone who flies
have anything against those who build?

You should be glad that there are people out there who have such arcane
interests as gluing pieces of balsa together. Who else are you going to buy
your planes from?

Real modelers have planes that people like you can only dream of.

Dave


Old Oct 14, 2005, 09:11 PM
Fubar of The HillPeople
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Re: RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.

Some of us are not old timers yet but run into articles and or hear about
some plane that looks interesting.
In my case I had heard about converting the Super Sportster 40 kit to a twin
engine. I bought the set of plans and instructions for the conversion just
this past year from RCM.

--
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"Ima Heinemann" <imaheinemann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Mr Akimoto" <Mr_Akimoto@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:1129313809.636799.150720@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>I keep wondering why it's a shame that RCM went out of business? They
>> didn't change with the times to meet the needs of the modern modeler
>> who likely isn't into gluing pieces of balsa together. Those who have
>> such arcane interests are a dying breed any way, and it isn't like they
>> are really being left high and dry without any plan services. There are
>> still plenty of plans available from places like Cleveland Models.
>>
>> Also I wonder why any old time modeler would need a plan service? You'd
>> think they they'd acquire the knowledge and develop the ability to
>> design and build without specifications.
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Mr Akimoto
>>

>
>
> Sometimes older individuals like to attempt to relive their past by
> building old favorite models from plans.
>
> There are many more of we older/arcane types than you might believe.
> Granted, lots of us assemble (not build) and fly ARFs these days, but we
> still glue a few sticks together now and then.
>
> I am sure that someone will make those plans available again. Why? There
> is money to be made, that is why.
>
> After the current generation of youngsters gets a little older and quits
> flying altogether, the next generation will consider the previous
> generation's ARFs and RTFs stupid and uncool. All that will be left will
> be the real modelers (all ages) that just love to build and fly.
>
> Ed Cregger
>



Old Oct 15, 2005, 03:11 AM
Ed Paasch
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Re: RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.

>> Also I wonder why any old time modeler would need a plan service? You'd
>> think they they'd acquire the knowledge and develop the ability to
>> design and build without specifications.
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Mr Akimoto
>>

>
> If you don't build, you're not a modeler. Nothing against those who only
> want to fly, but they're fliers, not modelers. Why should anyone who
> flies have anything against those who build?
>
> You should be glad that there are people out there who have such arcane
> interests as gluing pieces of balsa together. Who else are you going to
> buy your planes from?
>
> Real modelers have planes that people like you can only dream of.
>
> Dave


I'm certain we'd all be jealous of Mr. Akimoto's extensive collection of
expertly built Duraplanes if we were ever privileged enough to gaze upon
them!


Old Oct 15, 2005, 05:11 AM
Paul McIntosh
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Re: RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.

Count me in the arcane group! I prefer to design and build my own. They
fly better and I know how they were built! On the drawing board (Actually,
computer screen) lately is an unique approach to light weigh foam core
wings. I hope to approach the weight of a balsa built up with mostly foam.

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> "Mr Akimoto" <Mr_Akimoto@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:1129313809.636799.150720@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>I keep wondering why it's a shame that RCM went out of business? They
>> didn't change with the times to meet the needs of the modern modeler
>> who likely isn't into gluing pieces of balsa together. Those who have
>> such arcane interests are a dying breed any way, and it isn't like they
>> are really being left high and dry without any plan services. There are
>> still plenty of plans available from places like Cleveland Models.
>>
>> Also I wonder why any old time modeler would need a plan service? You'd
>> think they they'd acquire the knowledge and develop the ability to
>> design and build without specifications.
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Mr Akimoto
>>

>
>
> Sometimes older individuals like to attempt to relive their past by
> building old favorite models from plans.
>
> There are many more of we older/arcane types than you might believe.
> Granted, lots of us assemble (not build) and fly ARFs these days, but we
> still glue a few sticks together now and then.
>
> I am sure that someone will make those plans available again. Why? There
> is money to be made, that is why.
>
> After the current generation of youngsters gets a little older and quits
> flying altogether, the next generation will consider the previous
> generation's ARFs and RTFs stupid and uncool. All that will be left will
> be the real modelers (all ages) that just love to build and fly.
>
> Ed Cregger
>



Old Oct 15, 2005, 09:11 AM
Dave
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Re: RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.

Ahhhhh... but....

On 14 Oct 2005 11:16:49 -0700, "Mr Akimoto" <Mr_Akimoto@excite.com>
wrote:

>I keep wondering why it's a shame that RCM went out of business? They
>didn't change with the times to meet the needs of the modern modeler
>who likely isn't into gluing pieces of balsa together. Those who have
>such arcane interests are a dying breed any way,


I have a few years remaining....

and it isn't like they
>are really being left high and dry without any plan services. There are
>still plenty of plans available from places like Cleveland Models.


Agreed.. there are lots, but RCM has/had a great collecton, some
classics.....


>
>Also I wonder why any old time modeler would need a plan service? You'd
>think they they'd acquire the knowledge and develop the ability to
>design and build without specifications.


We can, and do....


Your "modern modeler" is a "model flyer", NOT a "modeler"..

Few experiences equate to piloting YOUR OWN CREATION on it's first
flight, or winning a contest with it.

Having done both,many times, I envy no other in this sport.....

Simply put, I invest more, I get more out of it.....

Some reading this comment will understand what I am saying... others
never will...

That's OK as well...

YMMV.

Dave

Old Oct 15, 2005, 11:11 AM
PRose
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Re: RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:28:42 -0700, byrocat wrote:

> No comments about what happened (a shame but it's a business at the
> root).
>
> Are they still taking orders and shipping plans?


As of the middle of September they were. I bought 16 sets of plans just
before the end of the "4 for 3" deal. They made a mistake with one of the
plans, and replaced it. This would take us to the middle or latter part
of September, and there was no hint of anything being wrong with the plan
service at that time.

HTH,
PRose
Old Oct 15, 2005, 03:11 PM
Mr Akimoto
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Re: RCM Plans Service still operating or has everything shut down.

Well Ed I also have a H9 US 40 with seven lovely servos and a Futaba 9C
radio to keep me expertly busy; however, I love to fly my T-40. I view
the T-40 as the basic abstraction of an aircraft/airframe, and I love
to irritate all the old balsa guys with their fancy high falootin' U
Can Doskis or Edgies whatever number. With a simple basic plane I can
fly circles around all of them. If I did the same with the US 40,
they'd accuse me of using an an advanced aircraft.

No I don't like to build, but then in the Navy, I didn't do the repairs
or maintenance on the aircraft I flew. If I had to do much more than
climb into the cockpit, I'd have asked for a discharge. As for
pictures, If you have seen one, then you have seen all!

Ciao,

Mr Akimoto

 


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