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Old May 14, 2002, 04:42 AM
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Formula One Scale Racing

I am new to this forum, so throw all the stones you want.

Is there a class of racing for the Sp400 class of motors like the control line Scale Racing class of airplanes? Those are based on a profile 1/12th scale model of a full scale Formula One aircraft.

I did a search on this but didn't turn anything up. This would seem a natural for this size motor.

Thanks,

Lee
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Old May 14, 2002, 05:15 AM
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Doubt it

Unlikely there is any wider interest, since the pylon 400 planes like Stinger are so much more advanced aerodynamically and faster than anything that is thick and has wheels...They would look nice, though, but then it would have to be more like a vintage scale contest rather than "fastest with sp 400" contest.
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Old May 14, 2002, 11:53 AM
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There was a movement to start up some racing using something like the Jim Ryan Speed 400 warbirds. Don't think it came to anything though.
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Old May 14, 2002, 06:17 PM
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I wouldn't want to race anything that pretty
Somebody did come out with a little Cosmic Wind looking S400 plane some time back. I haven't heard anything since. It looked really nice, glass fuse, foam wing, landing gear and everything. You guys remember that thing?
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Old May 14, 2002, 11:53 PM
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Model Airplane News had a Speed 400 powered Shoestring that they sell the plans for. I think Pat Trittle designed it. I've seen it in the plans section of MAN recently.

There was a proposed warbirds racing class, but it seems it went nowhere. That may soon change. The new Wattage P-51 Reno Racer (see the thread in this forum) shows promise for a scale racing class and the series of warbirds by Seriously Fun Models look good for racing.

Tuomas is probably correct that the primary interest will stay on the sleek molded planes that a lot of people are just fun flying for the most part at the moment. Even the Open Speed 400, F5D-400, or whatever you want to call it class is not in the rulebook. (Guys, I'll be posting a message about this shortly)

But there is always the chance that a different type of class could become popular. Q-500 and QM-40 dominate AMA Internal Combustion Pylon Racing, but there is a lot of House of Balsa AT-6 sport racing going on, and a lot of warbird ARF racing in various flavors. Plus there is Giant Scale, but it is limited by the giant scale budgets required to field a team.

Kevin Matney of Matney Models still sells his QM-15 Formula 1 planes (scroll to bottom of page) that were designed for .15 sized engines, but he says they are great for electric conversion, although with motors somewhat larger than Speed 400.
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Old May 17, 2002, 02:35 AM
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Thanks for the replies, guys.

What I was hoping for was an event with PROFILE fuselage 1/12th scale racers with or without landing gear, depending on the field surface.

Also I was thinking to have a set number of laps required with a minimum of one pit stop to change the battery pack. This would require packs assembled to slip into a box with firm contacts for quick change.

Please correct me if I am wrong on this, but in all the Radio Controlled racing events of which I am aware, none require a pit stop. From my previous racing experience, having a pit stop can really be exciting and separate the good, well prepared and lucky folks from the rest.

Maybe it is still a little early in the battery development phase for this, but it would sure be fun to try.

Thanks again,

Lee
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Old May 17, 2002, 09:19 AM
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There is a club or group that runs enduro Quickie 500 racing. They have 100 lap and even a 300 lap races, all with multiple pit stops required. I don't have the link at my finger tips, but it's on the Racing Down Under web site, and it is listed in the International Racing section on PylonWorld.com.
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Old May 17, 2002, 10:59 AM
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Pit Stops

Pit stops can be extremely dangerous. Someone has to go and retrieve the model from the landing site. In a race situation, there is every possibility of someone retrieving when someone else wants to land. This procedure needs to be very carefully worked out.
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Old May 17, 2002, 11:18 AM
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The link to the Pylon Down Under site is Pylon Racing - Australia Down Under.

The specific page is the Fun Sports Pylon Events.
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Yes! We have a class in our local club called E-200. That's electric 200 square inch. We created the class 5 years ago, and it's a blast! For such an inexpensive class, they are fast and fun. We run a 2200KV 400-class motor with a 5.25"x6.25" APC prop. We've kept the cost down by using motors from Hobby King (D2826-6 2200kv) and Heads-up RC (Power-Up Zoom 400), so motors only cost from $10-17. We use a 35A speed controller and 3S1350mA 30C batteries, which usually run about $12-$15 each.

I fly both E-200 and EF-1. Slightly faster than the EF-1 at 108-112MPH, we fly on about the same size course. That's where my husband gave me the name, "Pylon Princess". You can see us at www.utahpylonracing.com. YouTube videos fall under CUPRA Pylon Racing for Central Utah Pylon Racing Association.

The only hang-up is that we haven't found any real ARF's. You can get my Lancer-C or Lancer-V (conventional or V-tail) laser kit from J-Tech laser, but you still have to provide your own triangle stock, cores, sheeting and carbon ribbon we use for spars. If you're interested, give me your e-mail and I'll send the drawings and instructions for it.

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I am new to this forum, so throw all the stones you want.

Is there a class of racing for the Sp400 class of motors like the control line Scale Racing class of airplanes? Those are based on a profile 1/12th scale model of a full scale Formula One aircraft.

I did a search on this but didn't turn anything up. This would seem a natural for this size motor.

Thanks,

Lee
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