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Old Jul 12, 2001, 03:07 PM
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Tiger Moth Wing Hold Down Mods

Hi all,

I wanted an easy way to remove the wings and came up with a method using some 3/32 inch dowels. Go to the site
http://members.home.net/benlanterman/

and go to the bottom of the pictures (I am not a computer person so bear with me).

Click on the Tiger Moth to see a bigger picture. What I have done is glue in the dowels into the foam in place of the strut screws, also on the cowl. This lets you remove wing or cowl easily. I used the rubber bands to hold them place. You can use small bands as there is not a lot of load on them. I actually flew without the rubber bands as a check but it gets a little spooky.

I also noticed I have almost no dihedral on either top and bottom wing. There is a little more in flight but it is much less than the MAN article shows. I didn't have a ruler handy so winged it (pun) and goofed up and the glue was already set.

The airplane still handles very nicely and does everything smoothly except barrel rolls (this is where the lower dihedral angle would show up). It flys almost as if it were an aileron ship. No complaints so I will leave it as is and do the next one to instructions.

My compliments to the designer of these nice airplanes. I have put more hours on the Stick and Moth over the summer so far than most everything else put together over the last 5 years. Batteries that last an honest 20 minutes and iimpeccable handling qualities (stick with polyhedral wing though) make them a joy.

The Tiger Moth is a great looking airplane. I am looking forward to seeing what else they might produce.

Good landings
Ben
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Old Jul 12, 2001, 10:55 PM
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Thanks, Great mod I will be using that one.
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Old Jul 12, 2001, 10:56 PM
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Thanks for the excellent tip, Ben! I've been trying to think up a way to make the wing easily removable and this does the trick nicely.

Jason.
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Old Jul 13, 2001, 07:15 PM
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Sorry for the slightly OT post, but I just wanted to complement Ben on the fabulous photos on his page. [To Moderator: Ben's mods to his Moth look good, too ]

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Old Jul 13, 2001, 11:51 PM
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Ben,
I also want to compliment you for your wing mounting mod.

Matt,
I enlarged the lower hole in the front of the cowling, and cut the foam out of the front of the battery channel. It seems to have improved the airflow through the cowling and around the motor.

Jeff
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Old Jul 14, 2001, 12:33 AM
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I second or make that third that idea. They should add that as an addendum to the kit. Who wouldn't want easily detachable wings on the tigermoth. I guess the only risk is damaging the wing when it is not supported by the middle struts in transport. I'll be doing that to my kit for sure. I am not happy with the cowl though. I may make my own that allows more airflow.
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Old Jul 14, 2001, 11:20 AM
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Thanks for the compliments guys, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in awhile :-)

Ben

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Old Jul 15, 2001, 08:56 PM
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Jeff,
I just finished out my tigermoth today and have been thinking about the cowling. I did a break-in using a 270mah 4.8v pack and after about a 15 minute run, the motor was very hot. I've decided to just leave it off.

I love the look of the tigermoth but gluing in those wing struts was a bear.
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Old Jul 15, 2001, 09:26 PM
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I usually perform motor break-in with just 1 cell, which barely creates any heat. Some people recommend 2 cells. Never heard of anyone using a 4-cell break-in before, but I'd guess that is pushing the envelope in terms of generating heat.
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Old Jul 15, 2001, 10:15 PM
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Don't ever run the motor statically for that long a time on that many cells. You'll do more damage than helping it. Incidentally, I don't bother to break in the GWS motors as they seem fine out of the box and only improve with use(my first flights are no different than the last few). I've had no problems with those motor overheating in the air....tape the cowl together and use it...don't try to reengineer the plane...it flies just fine.
Tonight I cut the head off a Beanie Baby (Mr. Beaver) and glued to the rear cockpit with his head sticking out in the slip stream. I thought I might have a problem with it wanting to turn to the left, but it flew just fine with only a .335 oz weight increase. That makes the plane a total wt. of 9.299 oz and it still flies as one of the best planes I have.
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Old Jul 15, 2001, 10:39 PM
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re: don't try to reengineer the plane...it flies just fine.

But re-engineering is part of the fun.

I did a practical mod to my tigermoth. I cut a small rectangular piece of the white strut material that was left over and added a slot to line up with the landing gear slot (made it slightly under the size of the foam opening). Glued it to the bottom of the fuse with 5-min epoxy. Now I have a very sturdy landing gear fixture and also a raised edge to help hold the bottom wing in place.

here is another simple tip: Buy a yellow sharpie (not hiliter) at your local office supply. Use it to color the edges of the foam, dowel rods and any other areas that need touchup. Works great and was just a buck.
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Old Oct 01, 2001, 09:49 PM
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wheels

Hi Ben....
it seems that you too notice how soft the wheels are...does sticking two wheels together help in making them more rigid? if so how did you 'stick
' them together? with tape is it from the picture?
thanks
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