HobbyKing.com New Products Flash Sale
R/C Groups.com   RCCars Crack Roll Flying Giants RC Power The E Zone Lift Zone Our Sponsors
R/C Groups.com


Go Back   RC Groups > Article Archive > Liftzone Archive

Reply Post New Thread  Previous Thread Next Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old Sep 28, 2005, 09:27 AM   #16
That sickening crunch..
 
Andy W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 39,796
If you have the motor already, that's another story! I'm sure it will work out fine, we just need to know what prop to use. I'd try and find other users who can suggest good combinations. You want to swing a typical sailplane prop - somewhere between a 13x7 and a 16x10 - and probably run 7 sub c, or perhaps 7-10 cell 2/3 sub c (i.e. GP2200) cells (anything lighter won't allow you to balance the model).. I'd ask in the Power Systems forum - unless you have a selection of props to try anyway..
..a
Andy W is offline Find More Posts by Andy W   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 11, 2005, 10:34 PM   #17
on a vacation
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 2,348
I have a mega 16/15/2 and have bought a dust devil for it...how well wills this motor work with the dust devil?

I'm worried about cooling. I'm thinking on buying one of those cooling fans from radio shack and put it in the fuselage so I don't have to make cutout holes that would increase drag.

Also, I bought the hobby-lobby Jeti 90A programmable ESC. Will this ESC be able to hold up to the draw of the mega motor?

I'm also thinking about using my 6 cell thunder tiger pack. Two of the cells are made for amps, the others are for voltage (they call it a "four-S-Two-P") I really hope this works.

Last, but not least, I bought 2 servos from hitec and a receiver. The servos are called "HS-50" and the receiver is called "micro 555" I really hope these will work....will they?

Anything else I need to buy? I bought the motor (had it really) ESC, micro 555, and 2 hs-50s. What else?
Spencer J is offline Find More Posts by Spencer J   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 12, 2005, 06:32 AM   #18
That sickening crunch..
 
Andy W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 39,796
That motor is too small and light for this model, and has much too high kV (RPM/volt) - you'd need to be able to gear it 6:1 or so to be able to swing a prop that would work on this size model. I also don't think you'll be able to get it to balance with such a light motor up front (I tried with a Cyclon Mini Elite and there was no way to balance it, even with the battery all the way forward). It's unlikely your LiPo pack would work. The servos are also too small - the Dust Devil requires HS-81 servos (the cutouts are designed for this size servo, but you also need much more torque than the 50's can provide).

..a

Last edited by Andy W; Oct 12, 2005 at 07:03 AM.
Andy W is offline Find More Posts by Andy W   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 17, 2006, 08:48 AM   #19
That sickening crunch..
 
Andy W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 39,796
Flew it again this past weekend in the Extreme F5J. It was too windy to trim my AVA out correctly, so I flew the Dust Devil instead and kept the AVA low. The DD performed well - again, in windy conditions - is again rugged, as well as easy and relaxing to fly. My miserable timing and piloting skills ended up with me launching into and repeatadly finding sink, however..
..a
Andy W is offline Find More Posts by Andy W   Reply With Quote
Old May 08, 2006, 08:02 AM   #20
Registered User
 
tinkrerpilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 1,350
Send a message via AIM to tinkrerpilot
What other setups for motor, prop speed control, batteries would one recommend for the Dust Devil, since Cox leaves it up to th individuals to figure it out. Would be nice if they gave some ideas as to what they even used in it to fly it. Best to know the product, then just sell it. Have not heard to much about it in the forum arena either.
I have have sitting on the shelf waiting for all the needed things to come together before building and flying.

Any other ideas as to what will work best in this? General sunday flying and maybe some competition flying.

Thanks for the info. Learned some more from this thread.
tinkrerpilot is offline Find More Posts by tinkrerpilot   Reply With Quote
Old May 17, 2006, 08:54 PM   #21
Team ATX
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Burlington, Kentucky
Posts: 907
Hey Andy,

I am looking at the Dust Devil and was wondering about a motor combo I have. Do you think a Multiplex BL 400/4D with 4.4-1 gear box on 7 cells would work? Too light?

Ed
Ed Franz is offline Find More Posts by Ed Franz   Reply With Quote
Old May 18, 2006, 06:08 AM   #22
That sickening crunch..
 
Andy W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 39,796
Ed,
I don't have experience with the multiplex motors but I will say the 400 series is probably too light to allow you to balance the model. The short nose means you need a heavy motor up front.
..a
Andy W is offline Find More Posts by Andy W   Reply With Quote
Old May 18, 2006, 05:09 PM   #23
Team ATX
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Burlington, Kentucky
Posts: 907
Thanks Andy. What is the weight of your motor and gearbox? This would give me an idea of what I need to look at in the way of motor/gearbox combo. Pity we have to use Ni-Cads in the AMA events, still think this might make a nice 7 cell plane.

Ed
Ed Franz is offline Find More Posts by Ed Franz   Reply With Quote
Old May 18, 2006, 07:09 PM   #24
That sickening crunch..
 
Andy W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 39,796
I have a direct drive Mega 30/3 - that's an 8oz motor. It flies great on that, and 7 CP1700's. You *might* be able to get it to balance with 7 CP1300's..
..a
Andy W is offline Find More Posts by Andy W   Reply With Quote
Old May 19, 2006, 05:20 PM   #25
Team ATX
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Burlington, Kentucky
Posts: 907
Andy,

Who was the guy who flew the Dust Devil at Nats last year? I seem to remember you posting that, but now I can't find it.

Thanks,
Ed
Ed Franz is offline Find More Posts by Ed Franz   Reply With Quote
Old May 20, 2006, 07:03 AM   #26
That sickening crunch..
 
Andy W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 39,796
Mike McGowan, I think, plus on the box it's endorsed by Ken Bates on the box!
..a
Andy W is offline Find More Posts by Andy W   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 03, 2006, 05:26 PM   #27
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: rockville maryland
Posts: 300
maidned the DD this past weekend. the plane handles well,tracks straight and true.
i had to replace the music wire push rods with 1.8 mm CF rods from HL to get it to balance. i am using an AXI 2820-10(the one shown in the manual) and a 1700 nicad pack.
don't even think of using the spoiler without elevator compensation...the reaction is nothing less than VIOLENT.
andy's throws seem to be roght on...ken
ken troxell is offline Find More Posts by ken troxell   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 04, 2006, 06:45 AM   #28
That sickening crunch..
 
Andy W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 39,796
I can imagine you'd have to lighten up the tail a good bit to balance with anything lighter up front, which on reflection is a pity - if the nose had been just a couple of inches longer, you could have used a much lighter power system and gotten this down to the mid 30's..
..a
Andy W is offline Find More Posts by Andy W   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 09, 2006, 02:19 PM   #29
The original Flyin Pigs Sqd.
 
Up&Away's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Netanya, Israel
Posts: 7,054
Two quick questions:
With the spoiler in the center of the wing, doesn't it block the airflow for the elevator making the elevator inefective?
Is there/will there be a t-tail version?

EDIT
Does it only come in red?

Last edited by Up&Away; Nov 09, 2006 at 02:33 PM. Reason: third question
Up&Away is online now Find More Posts by Up&Away   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 09, 2006, 03:03 PM   #30
That sickening crunch..
 
Andy W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 39,796
No. It's rare that spoilers actually block the airflow sufficiently to cause that. I don't believe there will be a different tail or color available. The V-tail can be easily removed for storage and transport, btw - mine is just held on with tape.
..a
Andy W is offline Find More Posts by Andy W   Reply With Quote
Reply Post New Thread  Previous Thread Next Thread

Castle Creations      DRIVE / FLY / SUPPORT  

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Article Cox Models Christen Eagle ARF Review Thomas B Foamies (Kits) 74 Oct 15, 2009 11:01 PM
Article Cox Models new EP-380 Electric Trainer ARF Review Andy W Ezonemag Archive 17 Feb 04, 2009 05:15 PM
Article Dymond Model Sports Double Blitz -- the Blitz 2 -- Powered ARF Glider Review Don Sims Ezonemag Archive 14 Dec 23, 2006 10:40 PM
Cox Models Dust Devil reviewed on LiftZone Andy W Electric Sailplanes 0 Sep 17, 2005 08:32 AM
Cox Wings Dust Devil wattsup_kz Electric Sailplanes 2 Jul 29, 2005 11:16 AM




All RCGroups content copyright 1996 - 2009 by RCGroups.com and Jim Bourke except where otherwise indicated.
Terry the transmitter, the RCGroups name and logo, The E Zone, Lift Zone, and RC Power are all trademarks of RCGroups and Jim Bourke. Please report any misuse of our trademarks using the contact form. Thank you.

Bored? Want to fight?
Join the RCGroups clan!

Powered by vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.