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Old Jul 21, 2005, 10:52 PM
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Dumas U.S. Coast Guard 44' Lifeboat #1212

Hi,

Does anyone know if the Optional running hardware kit #2335 for this boat comes with installation instructions? The plans and instructions that come with the kit give no info on stuffing box/shaft installation. ie. no measurements or indication exactly where the shafts exit the hull. The Dumas web site is not clear on whether instructions are included with the hardware kit. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers.

Bill.
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Old Jul 22, 2005, 11:06 AM
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Give them a call

I would call Dumas customer service at 1-800-458-2828 toll free.

They will help with any question you have.

Jim Old 8140
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Old Jul 22, 2005, 11:26 AM
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Thanks Jim!

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Old Jul 22, 2005, 11:31 AM
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Here is a site with some pictures and other 44' MLB information.
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Old Jul 22, 2005, 12:29 PM
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Hey Bob,

Is that rope in the propeller a standard installation, or is that a custom modification.
Would you recommend that mod?
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Old Jul 22, 2005, 12:45 PM
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Umi,

That would be considered the emergency "Pull start" if it was a nitro powered unit!! ( Man am I going to get it for that!! )

Bill
What Bob has sent you is great, take it to the bank!!

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Old Jul 22, 2005, 10:27 PM
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Umi - unfortunately that's part of the cost of doing the search and rescue business. I don't have any information on the specifics of the tow line wrapping in the screw. That's one of those things that experienced coxswains have learned from and try to avoid.

During my first year in the USCG (1977) a similar incident happened at Cape Disappointment. I was a Fireman Apprentice (the most junior engineer) on the Columbia Lightship at the time. It was in October or November. A 41' UTB from Cape D was going out for some night navigation training on the Columbia River with a crew of 4 and 6 CG students. After leaving the station, they turned upriver towards Astoria. A wave caught the boat on the port quarter and flipped it over. The 41' UTB is not self righting like the 36', 44', 47' or 52' MLB's. Two Coasties got washed overboard and one climbed onto the overturned hull. The other 8 got washed into the forward lower cabin. Six of them got out of the forward cabin. 7 Coasties survived that ordeal, 3 died. The overturned 41' UTB floated out the Columbia's mouth and drifted past the lightship with the two guys still inside the forward cabin. We threw over all of our liferings with attached float light. The 52' MLB Triumph came out and got a towline on the 41. The Triumph and 41' were starting to cross the Columbia bar, and the coxswain of the Triumph had to back down - wrapped the tow line in the Triumph's starboard screw. The tow line was cut, and a 44' MLB stood by to resume the tow at first light. That night was a very sobering experience for me, an 18 year old kid from north of Chicago.
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Old Jul 23, 2005, 12:25 AM
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I know the 2335 which is for the 41' UTB has instructions with it. Nice hardware kit, stuffing tubes had a overflow spout on it. The 4 blade props have been changed to a 3 blade type, instructions did not indicate a change but they fit just fine. Check out Dumas' website also and you can see a pic of the hardware kit.
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Old Jul 24, 2005, 09:25 PM
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CG Bob, A quick Coast Guard question for you, please. Can you give me some idea when the CG started using the diagonal red stripe on the forward hull sides on their boats/ships. Was it a rapid phase-in or more gradually done as boats required other maintenance? From what you can see, all CG craft today seem to have these stripes; is that so? Many thanks -
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Old Jul 25, 2005, 05:34 AM
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From the CG Historians site, info on the stripe. It was first applied in 1967, and a phase in period of about a year was required, as some cutters didn't paint the stripe until late 1968.
CG Painting regulations.
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Old Jul 25, 2005, 02:51 PM
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Thank you, Bob, I hadn't realized the phase-in was that early, and I didn't know about the Vietnam-era color scheme, either; I guess that was in-Theater only. I appreciate your taking the time for a very comprehensive answer.
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