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Old Jul 16, 2005, 10:01 PM
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yup.....I believe they call him Mr. President.
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Old Jul 16, 2005, 10:24 PM
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Bush's tax cut
The same tax cut that, along with his never meeting a spending bill he wouldn't sign, got us the deficit and 7 trillion dollar national debt we now "enjoy"?

Obviously well thought out. Or not.


I don't know about your neck of the woods, but 'round these parts, spending money that you don't have is considered pretty stupid. The only thing more stupid is borrowing money when you can't pay it back.
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Old Jul 16, 2005, 10:44 PM
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The same tax cut that, along with his never meeting a spending bill he wouldn't sign, got us the deficit and 7 trillion dollar national debt we now "enjoy"?

Obviously well thought out. Or not.


I don't know about your neck of the woods, but 'round these parts, spending money that you don't have is considered pretty stupid. The only thing more stupid is borrowing money when you can't pay it back.
I might debate the debt, and if the tax cuts did good or bad, but I'd rather just say:

Listen to the dog on this one, because if anyone should know about debt and government spending way out of control, in stupid fashion, it's someone living in CA.
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Old Jul 16, 2005, 11:54 PM
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I might debate the debt, and if the tax cuts did good or bad, but I'd rather just say:

Listen to the dog on this one, because if anyone should know about debt and government spending way out of control, in stupid fashion, it's someone living in CA.

Well actually, considering deficits as a function of our budget, California is doing much better than the U.S. Fed, due largely to it's moderate Republican governor, and LA (Which I do not live in, BTW) has not had a budget deficit in my memory. Of course, it also had a Moderate Republican mayor until just a few years ago...and now seems to be getting a budget cutting moderate Democratic mayor.

There is a difference between stupidly spending what you do have, and what you don't have.

And I'm sorry, my figure of 7 trillion was incorrect. It's actually 848,324,813,050 dollars higher than that.

http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm


And the only "Good" that could be claimed from the 50 dollars left on the nightstand tax cut was pretty dubious, as it encouraged all those suckers who thought that $300 bucks meant GWB cared about them to vote for him again.
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Old Jul 17, 2005, 01:45 AM
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Maybe the democrat party will be a thing of the past soon-icrashedthecub
Yes, the one party system worked well for many leaders. Saddam, Stalin, Hitler, Castro . . . well maybe not so well for Hitler, in the end. And Saddam, he was with us, then against us, maybe he could not keep up with our changing policy towards him.
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Old Jul 17, 2005, 02:39 AM
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Maybe the democrat party will be a thing of the past soon
I believe you could be right if the Liberals continue to hijack the party.
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Old Jul 17, 2005, 02:45 AM
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jstone : progressive"

Progressive sounds worse.
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Old Jul 17, 2005, 06:01 AM
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Bush's tax cut
What complex problem or issue was Bush's Tax Cut a well thought out solution to?

Billionaires without enough vacation homes and party boats? Perhaps the excrutiating choice between vacation homes in St Thomas or St John, Lake Como, Hilton Head or the Swiss Alps?

Rejoice, now they can get all five. Whew, that was a close one.
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Old Jul 17, 2005, 06:01 AM
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Progressive sounds worse.
Progress being such a dirty word?
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Old Jul 17, 2005, 07:29 AM
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We need our Liberals we just don’t need them running things

We need them barking at our heels keeping us inline and warning us of danger..
Duh!!! I just read what I typed and Describe my dog it's a southern thing: )

Let me rephrase that..

We need them Challenging or Views. So we keep fighting the good Fight
And defending Constitutional principles and its dangers

Notice the word WE!
WE THE PEOPLE!
This My Fellow Americans separate us from the savages (there I go again)
This My Fellow Americans Insures our liberty and union are strong…

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Old Jul 17, 2005, 07:48 AM
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What complex problem or issue was Bush's Tax Cut a well thought out solution to?
What planet are you living on?
Reagan already proved it: Tax cuts work every time they're tried.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...300797_pf.html

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Old Jul 17, 2005, 08:21 AM
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What planet are you living on?
Reagan already proved it: Tax cuts work every time they're tried.
Your link is worthless in proving your point, at least on Planet Earth. In fact it goes into great length on what a miserable, stinking mess the tax cuts have made of the budget.

While I'm tempted to say your post proves the Ldog Thesis that the right wing loves to parrot simplistic, unrealistic solutions, I won't. What I have found instead is that wild, broad generalizations like "liberals bad" or "conservatives simplistic" are useless and brand the speaker as having his head firmly embedded in an unusal place.

The Ldog knows this is and is just toying with you. You swallowed his bait with gusto.
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Old Jul 17, 2005, 09:36 AM
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"demorats".....how adult of you.

Not only are you insulting half the population of this country but you are probably violating the rules of this site by calling others names.
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I think it's great we have the Wacko Right keeping an eye on the Wacko left.
He didn't call anyone here a name, just like you didn't call Highflight a member of "the Wacko Right" in your response to him.

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Old Jul 17, 2005, 09:39 AM
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This explains alot . . .
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Old Jul 17, 2005, 09:48 AM
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Sounds a bit tinfoil-hattish (is that a word?) to me, but there is some food for thought there.

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