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Old Apr 20, 2002, 08:09 PM
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Guillows SUCCESS!!!!!!!!

I decided to attempt to convert the Guillows SE5A for R/C flight, I dont really have much Modeling experience, But decided to try anyway. I followed a lot of posts on this conversion, And went for it. most of the wood is from the kit with the exception of the stringers engine mount and the landing gear has been reinforced. I kept alot of details off the plane to save weight besides I didnt think it was going to fly anyway. Well much to my suprise it ROG realisticly tracked straight on the ground rose slow and straight this plane flew with no vices I must have set the thrust angle correctly for the nose didnt rise when I gave it more power. no trim changes were needed to my suprise. I guess this had to be beginners luck, Unfortunely I landed into a bush breaking off a strut which was easily repared. after I finished the Herr cub Im working on Im planning on building the Guillows Neiport for conversion. specifications are:
welght 9 oz.
3 channel rudder/elevator/throttle
Motor M100
prop GWS 9X7
battery 8 cell teig 280 nimh
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Old Apr 20, 2002, 08:29 PM
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Congrats on SE-5

Great, gotta send for one of those M100's. I'm using a GWS 100C ( 7-cell 280 2.8:1 gear drive) on my Guillows PT-17, I think that it'll have enough power to ROG, will find out next week if winds calm down. Hope your subsequent flights continue to go well.

I had an E-zone reader ask me if I used any of the Guillows balsa. You would think that the wood was reeeeelly bad from all of the folk lore about Guillows. They should try building Comet kits..........., and use a broken single edged razor blade, why, when I was a boy......
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Old Apr 20, 2002, 08:35 PM
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Congradulations!!! i hope you sucsess with the future flights.Now if the AMA builds that indoor flying site, there could be some nice indoor winter nationals there!! keep it up.KOMET44
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Old Apr 20, 2002, 10:21 PM
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Congratulations rays89,
Looks like a great conversion.
I finally got my Guillows SE5a up too. Mine was plagued with terrible wing and tail incidence problems. After I corrected these problems, mine flew quite nicely. It is great that yours can ROG, I used piano wire LG and must have changed the configuration just enough that it cannot ROG. I used a speed 280 geared 4:1 with a 9x7 prop. It looks like the M100 is a better choice. Mine is a touch underpowered.

Nice job.
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Old Apr 20, 2002, 10:34 PM
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Thanx for the compliments, The M100 motor gives this plane plenty of power. Hopefully if the weather is nice I can get some more airtime on it
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Old Apr 21, 2002, 11:13 AM
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Hi Rays..

i just received my se-5 in the mail (got it on ebay for 9.99) and was wondering what your frame weight is; i saw that your flying weight was 9 oz but wasn't sure about the component weight;

the balsa in the kit seems pretty light; i am going to weigh it with a scale to check out its actual weight before i start to avoid a "fat" plane;

the M100 seems like a great choice; i was thinking of the HY-50D to save a bit of weight;

thanks,

jeff
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Old Apr 21, 2002, 01:22 PM
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The M100 is a super power plant, I run it with 8 - 300 Mah NiMH batteries. I have a 7 ounce plane and it can almost hang on the prop. The Avitar is a picture of it. The Almost Ultimate. Wings, and tail surfaces are scale, but the fuselage is not as wide and the nose treatment is ...

I am building a Waco "10" at 27" span and have a GWS 300C for power. The motor looks like a 300, but the box says it is a 370. It is not much bigger than the 280, but runs at higher RPM and needs a bigger gear ratio. I bought a 370 from the LHS and it was almost as big as a 400. The 300 series from GWS has ball berings on the prop shaft, I am definately confused by the numbering system. Mabuchi doesn't help, they don't put the motor part number on the motor, at least where I can see it. Will post results when available.

I just picked up an Orion Elite Modified with custom gear reduction and am building a Henschel with a 30.5" span for that.

My goal is to put the Guillow's F4U-4 Corsair into the air. One of these motors will do it. I have the Stuka on the wall, no doubt it will fly, it won't be as critical as the Corsair.

My Guillows SE5a has Pico Stick landing gear, not scale, but works nice.

Thanks to a tip here, I went to Cleveland Air and got a set of plans for the Sikorski S-38. It is also in the in queue.

I love this hobby!

Len
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Old Apr 21, 2002, 03:14 PM
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Good job Rays89! Looks great. I think I'm going to try an m100 on my herr bonanza conversion. Glad to hear you're getting good results from it.
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Old Apr 21, 2002, 05:03 PM
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Jeff
I believe the airframe weight about 3.9 OZ. I had another set of electrics laying around so I wieghed them with the batterry which came out at 5.1 oz. I also used Nelson litefilm on the airframe its glossy so it doesnt look scale but I really dont want to deal with tissue and dope. Its raining so no flight today. I have a feeling this plane is only going to last a few flights. It does move at a rather fast pace, and I think one mistake is all its going to take to make it a pile of matchsticks. But its a fun plane and if I have to do it all over again I would definetly do it.
With the Herr Cub I have I plan on using the Orion Elite motor for it. after that I plan on doing another guillows conversion. Like I posted earlier I have the guillows Neiport but looking at the vertical stab I might have problems with the rudder. I gues I figure that out when I get there.
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Old Apr 21, 2002, 10:17 PM
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Good Show Rays89! Yes, "Balsa Flies Better" (to quote Guillow's ).
SE5's Rule!
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Old Apr 21, 2002, 11:17 PM
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I love those pictures! There's something about biplanes... I just love seeing and building them
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Old Apr 22, 2002, 06:06 PM
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Gerald your right balsa does fly better. You web site showing the SE5A conversion was what gave me the motivation on trying to build one, I really wasnt expecting to have much success. So when It performed the way it did it was a total rush. The conversion is rather easy also. I even bought another SE5a kit which I will give more detail. All I can say is if anyone want a good performing Biplane while not spending to much cash the guillows SE5a is the way to go. you can get them for about 10 bucks a pop on Ebay.
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Old Apr 22, 2002, 10:38 PM
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Was yours built from one of the new laser cut versions? This series of WWI fighters is all available laser cut now. I just finished a Thomas Morse S4C Scout but don't have any room left in my website space to post it.
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Old Apr 22, 2002, 10:49 PM
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It was one of the "crush cut" older kits but it wasnt to bad most of the wood was ok. It kind of made it a challenge cutting the pieces out with out ruining the part. Ive been following your Morse Scout project looks real sweet, I just cant really figure on how you constructed the airrlons yet. I dont have any experience with airelons. I guess when I get a four channel plane its gonna be a trainer type in which I wont have to put much time in constructing.
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Old Apr 24, 2002, 05:53 AM
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Hi,
I just happened across this post when I realized that I just bought a Guillows kit and have only framed up the fuse so far. I was wondering where could I find the M100 and about what do they cost normally?
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