SSDC--Incom T-65C-A2 X-Wing Starfighter

Artsloper · Jun 13, 2005, 11:46 PM

A long, long time ago, in a workshop not-so-far away.....I think it was in the 1980's I started on this idea and got as far as a 24" balsa fuselage with s-foil operation. This was years before the introduction of EPP. Now I have a reason to take this baby all the way!

My plan is to build an EPP prototype, fly it, then once successful, move on to large scale glass. I just might enter the prototype in the foamie category. The large scale version will have operable S-foils and other surprises (don't want to get too far ahead of myself here).

Stay tuned.......

TFLG · Jun 13, 2005, 11:48 PM

Oh man I always wanted to make one of those. Well at least you don't have to worry about somewhere to put the nose weight!

TFLG

bluffman · Jun 14, 2005, 12:40 AM

just when you thought all of the star war movies where done that would be a cool
looking sloper as a foamy you could have a great combat event. attache guns
and shoot all those zaggis out of the air ian maybe carl can make a giant mother ship.

slopemeno · Jun 14, 2005, 12:57 AM

Looks like a biplane Zipper actually...

SchiessCo · Jun 14, 2005, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFLG

Well at least you don't have to worry about somewhere to put the nose weight!

TFLG

I'm sure he won't be the first, but he'll be on of the few to have to worry about where to put the tail weight!

codezilla · Jun 14, 2005, 01:15 AM

What's an S-foil?

I'm thinking this plane would be draggy because of two wings, but I'll be very interested in this. I always thought a biplane would be cool except it would be too slow because of drag, but if you can make this work, I'm sure a biplane would work too.

Adrian

steve wenban · Jun 14, 2005, 01:53 AM

Mr Skywalkers Mrs flys a really nice looking ship in episode III
that would have definate slope possibility
SteveW

nwoods · Jun 14, 2005, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve wenban

Mr Skywalkers Mrs flys a really nice looking ship in episode III
that would have definate slope possibility
SteveW

That would be the ARC-170, as shown here:
http://www.lego.com/starwars/product...productid=7259

I just built this kit with my son tonight. Pretty cool

Artsloper · Jun 14, 2005, 02:08 AM

Codezilla, the x-wing pilots and tech specs refer to the wings as s-foils. "Lock s-foils in attack position." I realize that this will not be a fast sloper, this is an attempt to take a fictional spaceship and turn it into a fantasy PSS design with technical innovations. It will be my attempt to build it along PSS lines and keep it within scale of its original design.

The ship that was seen in Episode III woud be just too easy to get to fly, I need more of a challenge! Keeps people off my coat-tails sort-of-speak. Wait until you see the documentation i have, there is a whole lot of junk that will have to be sculpted into the fuselage and wings. This is not going to be easy.

NewbieX · Jun 14, 2005, 02:20 AM

How about the Naboo Royal Cruiser? This is one of my favorite ships from the last batch of Star Wars. The sleek, shiny metal flying wing, four engine pods with the bridge up and back. Not a real technical challenge, but it's pretty durn cool.

Apparently, it works with edf 55s.

http://www.lecun.org/hobby/naboo.html

The X-Wing could be fast(er) if you built it so that when the wing is in the closed position it creates a good plank airfoil. Play some smoothing tricks with the draggy portions. Planks don't tend to be slow. It would really be a feat if you could get it to fly in both closed and open positions, like thermal and speed trim.

May the Schwarz be with you,
Graham

steve wenban · Jun 14, 2005, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwoods

That would be the ARC-170, as shown here:
http://www.lego.com/starwars/product...productid=7259

I just built this kit with my son tonight. Pretty cool

I dont think it was a fighter it was just a cruiser sort of looked like a halfpipe on steriods

SteveW

Leonardo · Jun 14, 2005, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFLG

Oh man I always wanted to make one of those. Well at least you don't have to worry about somewhere to put the nose weight!

TFLG

........ME TOO!!!!!!!! I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO ARTSLOPER BEGINNING THE CONSTRUCTION!!

....and I'm curious to know how Artsloper will solve the problem of the FLAT-SPIN tendency that canards (or simil-canards) have, especially when they don't have a vertical stab...... (transparent vert. stab. apart, of course....)

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Good Luck(...opss, sorry, Break a leg!) Artsloper! May the Force* be with you......

LEO

Artsloper · Jun 14, 2005, 12:15 PM

Here are some preliminary specs:

78" wingspan
71" length
7.43 sq ft of wing area
21oz per sq foot wingloading at 160 oz (10 lbs)

65" wingspan
61" length
5.01 sq ft of wing area
31oz per sq foot wingloading at 160 oz (10 lbs)

lrsudog · Jun 14, 2005, 01:06 PM

Geek alert.

"S" foils = "Strike" foils.

Brian Koester · Jun 14, 2005, 01:12 PM

I too have contemplated building an X-wing for sloping. I even spent some time discussing it with Carl one night at our ISR monthly meeting. Good luck.

P.S. Did you table the Bugatti clay plug build?

Jun 13, 2005, 11:46 PM	#1
Artsloper The ProCreator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 808	SSDC--Incom T-65C-A2 X-Wing Starfighter A long, long time ago, in a workshop not-so-far away.....I think it was in the 1980's I started on this idea and got as far as a 24" balsa fuselage with s-foil operation. This was years before the introduction of EPP. Now I have a reason to take this baby all the way! My plan is to build an EPP prototype, fly it, then once successful, move on to large scale glass. I just might enter the prototype in the foamie category. The large scale version will have operable S-foils and other surprises (don't want to get too far ahead of myself here). Stay tuned....... Attached Thumbnails 94.9 KB · Views: 1599

Jun 14, 2005, 02:20 AM	#10
NewbieX Human Like You Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,516	How about the Naboo Royal Cruiser? This is one of my favorite ships from the last batch of Star Wars. The sleek, shiny metal flying wing, four engine pods with the bridge up and back. Not a real technical challenge, but it's pretty durn cool. Apparently, it works with edf 55s. http://www.lecun.org/hobby/naboo.html The X-Wing could be fast(er) if you built it so that when the wing is in the closed position it creates a good plank airfoil. Play some smoothing tricks with the draggy portions. Planks don't tend to be slow. It would really be a feat if you could get it to fly in both closed and open positions, like thermal and speed trim. May the Schwarz be with you, Graham Last edited by NewbieX; Jun 14, 2005 at 02:33 AM. Reason: Additional Schwarz

Jun 14, 2005, 12:15 PM	#13
Artsloper The ProCreator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 808	Here are some preliminary specs: 78" wingspan 71" length 7.43 sq ft of wing area 21oz per sq foot wingloading at 160 oz (10 lbs) 65" wingspan 61" length 5.01 sq ft of wing area 31oz per sq foot wingloading at 160 oz (10 lbs) Attached Thumbnails 68.3 KB · Views: 1079 Last edited by Artsloper; Jun 14, 2005 at 12:26 PM.

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Jun 13, 2005, 11:48 PM	#2
TFLG That Freeking Laird Guy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Moreno Valley, Ca Posts: 6,306	Oh man I always wanted to make one of those. Well at least you don't have to worry about somewhere to put the nose weight! TFLG

Jun 14, 2005, 12:40 AM	#3
bluffman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 844	just when you thought all of the star war movies where done that would be a cool looking sloper as a foamy you could have a great combat event. attache guns and shoot all those zaggis out of the air ian maybe carl can make a giant mother ship.

Jun 14, 2005, 12:57 AM	#4
slopemeno Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: the Alameda gall bladder refrigerator Posts: 5,059	Looks like a biplane Zipper actually...

Jun 14, 2005, 01:15 AM	#6
codezilla Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 1,350	What's an S-foil? I'm thinking this plane would be draggy because of two wings, but I'll be very interested in this. I always thought a biplane would be cool except it would be too slow because of drag, but if you can make this work, I'm sure a biplane would work too. Adrian

Jun 14, 2005, 01:53 AM	#7
steve wenban builder , flyer,repairer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mt Annan Sydney Australia Posts: 11,920	Mr Skywalkers Mrs flys a really nice looking ship in episode III that would have definate slope possibility SteveW

Jun 14, 2005, 02:08 AM	#9
Artsloper The ProCreator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 808	Codezilla, the x-wing pilots and tech specs refer to the wings as s-foils. "Lock s-foils in attack position." I realize that this will not be a fast sloper, this is an attempt to take a fictional spaceship and turn it into a fantasy PSS design with technical innovations. It will be my attempt to build it along PSS lines and keep it within scale of its original design. The ship that was seen in Episode III woud be just too easy to get to fly, I need more of a challenge! Keeps people off my coat-tails sort-of-speak. Wait until you see the documentation i have, there is a whole lot of junk that will have to be sculpted into the fuselage and wings. This is not going to be easy.

Jun 14, 2005, 01:06 PM	#14
lrsudog Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Under seven Oak trees... Posts: 2,061	Geek alert. "S" foils = "Strike" foils.

Jun 14, 2005, 01:12 PM	#15
Brian Koester Blue Stick's Dad Join Date: May 2003 Location: Westchester, Ca Posts: 908	I too have contemplated building an X-wing for sloping. I even spent some time discussing it with Carl one night at our ISR monthly meeting. Good luck. P.S. Did you table the Bugatti clay plug build?