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Old Jul 16, 2005, 06:25 AM
Does it come in Flouro??
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Nearly finished!

Nearly completed, basically tuning the throws and painting left to do!

Think I'll go for the Flouro Orange wing tips and tail like my EasyGlider.

All up weight came out at 1090 gms with a 2600 mAh PolyQuest 3S pack.

Stock Gunther props give 670 gms thrust static at 13,000 RPM and 19.1 amps.

The Graupner 5.5x4.3 Speed Props give 720 gms at 19.5 amps and 12,600 RPM.

Any suggestions for other props to try?? I'm running a pair of MPX 8.4 volt Speed400's. Dare say I'll get around to a pair of brushless outrunners eventually!

No maiden flight tomorrow, looks like! Weather men are saying 20 to 30 knots with rain and hail!

Cheers

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Old Jul 16, 2005, 06:52 AM
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Think I'll go for the Flouro Orange wing tips and tail like my EasyGlider.
Then how will you be able to tell the planes apart?
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Old Jul 16, 2005, 06:18 PM
Does it come in Flouro??
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Omba

Da one wid two teensie weensie spinny tings is da TwinStar II and da one wid da one BIG spinny ting is da EasyGlider Electric????

Or maybe da fat one is da TwinStar an da skinny one is da EasyGlider???

I reckun I'll work somefink out!

Pikkies once I've finished it!

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Old Jul 16, 2005, 07:57 PM
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jurgen please help me

Hello jurgen nice cargo on floats....i have two questions...
What about landings gears on the twin star II ?
I have a movie star and decided to go brush less i put n.2 400 t aurora on it with one brushless esc 30 amps .
The first attemp to make him work failed ...Only one motor work the other sems to start but it stops immediatelly......WHY ?
Also i have a Cargo since one year but never built ...does it fly well with their standard 400 motors direct drive ? What amp esc to use ... a duo 40 amps multiplex will be o.k ?
What lipo ?
Thank you and great work you do to inform us.
Regards
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Old Jul 16, 2005, 11:50 PM
Does it come in Flouro??
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Ready for a Maiden Flight!

Here is the finished DownUnder TwinStar II!

Ready for its Maiden Flight as soon as the wind dies off - currently around 15 knot gusts here!

I might put some strapping tape on its chin for landings!

Cheers

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Old Jul 16, 2005, 11:52 PM
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Old Jul 17, 2005, 01:02 AM
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Setup

I have two possible setups at present:
I am using:

2 x MPX 8.4 volt Speed400's
Either PolyQuest 2200 SLIM 3S pack or PolyQuest 2600 3S pack. Weight difference = 15 grams

Two prop choices:

Stock Gunthers
or
Graupner 5.5x4.3

Gunthers gives 19.1 amps total at 13000 RPM and 670 grams thrust

Graupner gives 19.5 amps total at 12600 RPM and 720 grams thrust

AUW 2600 pack is 1080 grams on stock Gunther props
AUW 2600 pack is 1105 grams on Graupner props with spinners

All options tried so far balance without lead.

Any suggestions for other props to try??

Maybe Graupner 6x3 or 6.6x3??

Thanks

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Old Jul 17, 2005, 03:14 AM
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Must be raining!
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Old Jul 18, 2005, 01:07 AM
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All up weight came out at 1090 gms with a 2600 mAh PolyQuest 3S pack.

Stock Gunther props give 670 gms thrust static at 13,000 RPM and 19.1 amps.

The Graupner 5.5x4.3 Speed Props give 720 gms at 19.5 amps and 12,600 RPM.
...
Cheers

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Looks like your Lipos are struggling with the amps. Normally you should get get 14.000+ rpm on 8 cells at around 24A.

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Old Jul 18, 2005, 01:11 AM
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Hello jurgen nice cargo on floats....i have two questions...
What about landings gears on the twin star II ?
I have a movie star and decided to go brush less i put n.2 400 t aurora on it with one brushless esc 30 amps .
The first attemp to make him work failed ...Only one motor work the other sems to start but it stops immediatelly......WHY ?
Also i have a Cargo since one year but never built ...does it fly well with their standard 400 motors direct drive ? What amp esc to use ... a duo 40 amps multiplex will be o.k ?
What lipo ?
Thank you and great work you do to inform us.
Regards
I never bother with landing gear on a foamy, but Bill has a nice setup for the older version - see if I can find it.

With two brushless motors, you need two controllers.

I don't think a 40A ESC is up to the task for 4 Permax 400.

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Old Jul 18, 2005, 01:15 AM
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I have two possible setups at present:
I am using:

2 x MPX 8.4 volt Speed400's
Either PolyQuest 2200 SLIM 3S pack or PolyQuest 2600 3S pack. Weight difference = 15 grams
...

Any suggestions for other props to try??

Maybe Graupner 6x3 or 6.6x3??

Thanks

Numb Thumbs
Aha, that explains the lower amps. You didn't mention that you didn't use the supplied motors. Before you try the CAM Slim 6.6x3", I recommend switching motors to Permax 480, 7.2V - need more torque! .

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Old Jul 18, 2005, 01:56 AM
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Bill's landing gear:
http://plawner.net/4/twinstar/bill_g...star_bill.html


Jurgen,

how do you find flying this TwinStar II compared to the old one ?
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Old Jul 18, 2005, 01:59 AM
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Bill Glover's landing gear:

http://plawner.net/4/twinstar/bill_g...star_bill.html

Thanks to Patrick Plawner and his excellent site! OOPS, you beat me to it!
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Old Jul 18, 2005, 02:06 AM
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Thanks TreeTop,


Always browsing from high altitude most of the threads and when I spot a target, I dive
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Old Jul 18, 2005, 06:34 AM
Does it come in Flouro??
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Basic Questions

If I was to run two small outrunners instead of the two Speed400's:

1. I use two speed controllers, one at each motor?

2. I run a pair of power wires to each motor and mount the ESC at the motor?

3. I run a servo extension back from each Speed Controller?

4. I use a Y cable to connect the two speed controller cables to the Rx??

That right???? Never had a multi engine plane before...

Thanks

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