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Old Apr 20, 2005, 04:01 PM
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Best ESC for Trex using Governor mode

Have a CC 45a right now which can't handle / does not do a good job with the governor mode. Pulses my motor big time. I'd rather not bother with throttle curves. Which brand and model shall I purchase?

On my Trex I have...
16/15/3 Mega
3s 2100 TP

Thanks guys...
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Old Apr 20, 2005, 04:10 PM
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howdy,

the ultimate esc regarding governor mode and BEC is the JAZZ Series from Kontronik. For T-Rex you could use the smallest one (still 40 Amp), it's the JAZZ 40-6-18.
The bad thing about it is the price, in europe it's about 150.00 EUR.



regards,
Walter


PS: This esc is different compared to the other esc in two way's:
1. It has a real DSP chip not only a 8 bit risc microcontroller, that give this beast the calculation and processing power for real good regulation and governor mode.
2. It has a switched power regulation circuit mixed with linear regulators for providing the best build in BEC solution this time.
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Old Apr 20, 2005, 04:16 PM
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Kontronik Jazz 40-6-18 is indeed the best ESC for T-Rex. It can handle 6s lipo if you decide to go HV later on.

Believe it or not it's cheaper at Tower Hobbies than any shop in Europe. Specially with their coupons.
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Old Apr 20, 2005, 04:43 PM
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thanks guys this is exactly what I needed. Appreciate the info. !!
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Old Apr 20, 2005, 04:51 PM
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Tower has it for 149.99 add a set of deans plugs for 2.99 and use the coupon code for $15 off. That makes it 133+shipping and you get the deans plugs
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Old Apr 20, 2005, 04:55 PM
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well there currently out of stock but they are saying late april which means they should have them soon. Thanks again!
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Old Apr 20, 2005, 05:59 PM
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Will the Kontronik Jazz work with a 400DH ?
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Old Apr 20, 2005, 06:15 PM
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JAZZ vs Castle Creations......

Although the JAZZ looks nice. It is heavier. Why can't Castle Creations just improve their "code" and fix all its problems esp in GOV mode?

They haven't had an update to their current 1.11 for a long time now. You would think they would be working OT to fix it!

The no "LED" lamp in wide open throttle should be an easy fix if the programmer know what he is doing. Maybe they can sub-contract the JAZZ programmer for some help???

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Old Apr 20, 2005, 07:11 PM
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Specially with their coupons.
nevermind...used goooooooogle to answer my own question.
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Old Apr 20, 2005, 07:16 PM
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Will the Kontronik Jazz work with a 400DH ?
Yes, it should work fine as it self adjusts the timing to match the motor.

As for the CC, I just finished setting up a 4s setup with a CC ESC and it worked great, firmware 1.11. Nice spoolup and sounded like solid headspeed.

I will admit though the Kont units are hard to beat. I use more of them in Helis right now than CC units.
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Old Apr 20, 2005, 07:22 PM
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I agree, I've tried two other motors now on CC25's and 35's and get the same pulsing and poor performance. That makes 5 different motors on 3 controllers. Not a good experience yet.
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Old Apr 20, 2005, 09:33 PM
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Same here TheX.. I'm hoping the Jazz will help me out...
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Old Apr 21, 2005, 05:18 AM
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Anyone that has tried the Align with gov?
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Old Apr 21, 2005, 07:11 AM
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i have a krontronik jazz 40 6 18 and it will not work correctly with the align motors

1. soft start does not work
2.gov mode does not work at all
3.even on hard start <to hard for a heli> it will only start 30-40 percent of the time and is very ineffeciant with the align motors


i have tested both the 2500kv, the 2800kv long can motors and the 2800kv short can
<400l,400s, 2500-400l> and neither will work correctly if at all with my esc <made a lipo explode too<to many amps<it was a 24oo 3s pack and should be fin for the s400 motors>, that is why i think it i so ineffeciant as the motor gets hot enough to melt the plastic mount even if the pinion is disengaged

i have used with beautiful results a mega 22-20-3e, but hav not as yet tried a mega 16-15-3 or 4 hopefully it will work better than the piece of align junk i bought first
i

does anybody have experience using a mega 16-15-3 or 4 with this esc?
if so could you please let me know how it worked out
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Old Apr 21, 2005, 11:38 AM
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Castle Creations ESC in Governor Mode

The CC ESC's work fine in governor mode if you set your end points correctly! I have no trouble with mine on 2 different Helis. Do a search for a post by Wreckerman on how to do it. Makes all the difference.
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