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Old Feb 09, 2008, 08:12 AM
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Nope. Wing will fail.
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Old Feb 09, 2008, 11:29 AM
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Actually I believe Soho did it, but I believe he also modified/beefed up the wing joiner from the stock one. I wouldn't say it couldn't be done, but it'd take some extra modifications to do it.
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Old Feb 09, 2008, 12:32 PM
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Thought he said it failed, and if he had to do it again, he's make it one-piece?
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Old Feb 09, 2008, 03:27 PM
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Has anyone tried one of these hybrid in-runner/out-runner motor or an opinion on whether it would work well in the Siren?

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=5421
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Old Feb 14, 2008, 07:51 PM
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I am a beginner, having successfully flown my Sig Riser last summer. I am thinking about getting a Siren. Is this too much for me at this point?

I want something I can use and move up with. Can't afford a bunch of sailplanes..retirement income.

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Old Feb 14, 2008, 08:58 PM
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How are you at flying the Riser?
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Old Feb 14, 2008, 10:20 PM
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Andy,

I got pretty good at it. I started with an instructor. Launched it with a High Start. The longest I had it up was 4 minutes No problem landing, manuvering, etc. I just did not seem to be able to find or identify thermals. The instructor said that will come with experience.

Now I would like to advance. Instructor see no problem.
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Old Feb 15, 2008, 12:50 AM
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Is there a reason for using HS 65BBs instead of HS81mg for the elevator? Would a HS81 fit? Im getting one with an axi 2826/10 with aeronaut carbon 14x9.5. 3s2p 2200 pack.
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Old Feb 15, 2008, 06:45 AM
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Then the siren should be fine for you, it flies just like a glider, except it's a bit more agile/responsive.

I don't know if the 81 would fit, but I would *think* it would..
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Old Feb 15, 2008, 09:19 AM
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The Siren isn't a glider...more of a warmliner for quick climbs and diving passes. I found myself wanting for a rudder at slow speeds...like what a glider would be doing while thermal hunting.

IIRC, I had HS81s all around in my Siren.
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Old Feb 15, 2008, 03:08 PM
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I just got a siren, which motor prop combo is the best suited
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Old Feb 16, 2008, 06:04 AM
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That question has been asked, and answered, in this thread many times.
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Old Feb 16, 2008, 09:23 AM
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Yes Andy,
That question has been asked, and not really answered. Look at post 334. No answer.
A lot of things have changed since 2005, including power setups and batteries.
Iím sorry for the inconvenience.
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Old Feb 16, 2008, 10:10 AM
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Like Andy sez, there have been many responses. Here is my Siren Lite and Cheap option.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=249

My favorite is still my old Mega 16/15/4 with KPG 3.7:1 geared 15x8 prop.

Both are viable but they handle like different birds because of the power and weight differences. I like aspects of both and could happily own and fly two different set ups.

You have to decide what is best for you (price vs. performance: climb rate, glide rate, thermalability, energy retention, power systems: efficient geared inrunners vs. long and short outrunners, cell types, lipo vs. round cells, input power, etc...

Just have fun deciding for yourself what is best for you. It's all good.

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Old Feb 16, 2008, 10:25 AM
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I would go with the same setup I have now, the geared Kontronik 480/33, but with of course a higher rated controller (such as the PHX-80 I use now) and a 3s LiPo instead of round cells..
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