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Old Jan 24, 2006, 05:26 PM
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Another note about Computer Radios

I am new I have a Optic 6 With three models set up. I named each with the frequency in the name I.E. Swif023,Blad054,Jane023. When checking to see if you have the right model don't forget to check that the frequency is also correct. Of course you will know if you do a control check but its a good idea anyway.

Danny
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Blade CP Helicopter
Jane 1.5M Elec.Sailplane
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Old Jan 24, 2006, 06:38 PM
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Be careful with that Spectra module. If you are changing channels often the probability of being in conflict with someone else goes up. I presume you are at a busy club and that is why you have each model on a different channel.

Not saying you will have a problem. Just saying be careful. Lots of people call them dial a crash.

I have 11 flyable planes, 10 are on channel 40.
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Old Jan 24, 2006, 10:05 PM
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If you notice I have the Swift and the Jane on 23 the Blade came on 54 and I have not changed it yet. I am not impressed with it I usually fly it (or try to) on the TX that it came with. I don't wish to spend money on it I think itís going into the next yard sale. But yes I do fly at a busy field Silent Electric Flyers of San Diego. They have 165 members not usually more than 20 on a given day, but I wanted the ability to change channels if needed. Itís no more a dial a crash that choosing the correct model, itís always about preflight and thinking twice before you do once. (if youíre hard headed like me you might even think it through 3 or 4 times).

Danny
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Old Jan 26, 2006, 09:02 AM
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help! almost total noob at this, and I have no idea whatsoever how to tell how strong the wind is. please help!
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Old Jan 26, 2006, 03:00 PM
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Try the TV weather forecast for starters.

Then try this link:
http://usairnet.com/cgi-bin/launch/c...t=Get+Forecast

this will bring up the location I use. You need to reset for your state, and the nearest airport.
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Old Jan 26, 2006, 03:52 PM
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thx!
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Old Jan 26, 2006, 05:51 PM
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If you want to measure actual wind speed at the field, you can get something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...lance&n=286168
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Old Jan 26, 2006, 09:00 PM
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I have one that is built much like this one:http://www.hobby-lobby.com/windsock.htm
It is quite cheap and has no batteries or electronics to go bad. I used it for years while RC sailboat racing. People brought out much more expensive units to use and they agreed very closely to mine. I left in the tool box all the time and never had to worry about if it would work. The wind higher up will be very different from the ground level so you should get in the habit of watching what ever is around you. Tree tops, flags even the birdsí actions will give you some indication. Of course if others around you are flying you can ask or watch them as well.


A little more looking I found the one I have. http://www.sciencekit.com/category.a...A_pn_E_6360900
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Old Feb 19, 2006, 12:31 PM
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Hey guys. I'm brand new to the RC flight scene, and after looking around at hobby-lobby.com I bought a Graupner BO 209 Monsun. After reading 3 beginer guides, including this one, this plane comes off as the exact opposite of what I should start on. Of course, at the time I wanted something that looked good. Now I'm worried the first flight will the the last. It's already in the mail and paid for, though. So it'll be showing up at my doorstep in a few days, regaurdless.

I'm just looking for a few tips and pointers for my first flight. Maybe try to keep the thing in one piece the first day. I'm a fairly confident person and in my mind I'm thinking I'll do fine, but reading everything people say about the first time is getting my a bit worried.
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Old Feb 19, 2006, 10:35 PM
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Hey guys. I'm brand new to the RC flight scene, and after looking around at hobby-lobby.com I bought a Graupner BO 209 Monsun. After reading 3 beginer guides, including this one, this plane comes off as the exact opposite of what I should start on. Of course, at the time I wanted something that looked good. Now I'm worried the first flight will the the last. It's already in the mail and paid for, though. So it'll be showing up at my doorstep in a few days, regaurdless.

I'm just looking for a few tips and pointers for my first flight. Maybe try to keep the thing in one piece the first day. I'm a fairly confident person and in my mind I'm thinking I'll do fine, but reading everything people say about the first time is getting my a bit worried.
Well, I would say you are right. That is not a plane I would recommend for a new pilot UNLESS you have an instructor. Do you have an instructor. Will you be on a buddy box?

As for tips, did you read the first post of the thread. There are 6 tips.

If you are tyring to learn on your own, here are some planes I can recommend. Put the one you bought away, if you are learning on your own. You can use the radio with these planes:

Planes

Below are ARFs wood and foam packages as well as some are very
easy to build all wood kits. In each case you must add your own radio,
receiver, servos, speed control, batteries and battery charger. They all come
with a
motor.

One of these flight packs will fit most of these planes:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGZU5&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGZU6&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCZX2&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXKKY1&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGZU7&P=7

T-Hawk - Without Radio - add your radio and receiver
http://www.readytoflyfun.com/wittran.html
T-Hawk Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ighlight=THawk
Videos
http://www.readytoflyfun.com/thawkvideos.html

Easy Star - ARF - Add you own radio gear
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240009.asp
Amazing information site for easy star
http://www.mpx-easystar.de/
Videos
http://plawner.org/video/easygo.wmv
http://plawner.org/video/easystar.wmv
Mods, upgrades and more
http://www.mpx-easystar.de/
Adding ailerons
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...8&goto=newpost
Travel Box
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...5&goto=newpost


Slow stick - $35 - CL2/3
Best flown in still to under 5 mph breeze. This is an excellent choice for
people who have a smaller space to fly.
Can also be flown indoors in a gym or similar space.
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...&products_id=2
or
Slow stick Complete Package incl radio - $150
(need battery charger)
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=602
The Slow Stick Info Site
http://mattsrc.rchomepage.com/ssir/index.shtml
Review
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...?article_id=75
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hreadid=122951
souped up slow sticks - video
http://skrogg.com/wed.wmv

Tiger Moth - $50 CL 2/3
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...products_id=20
or
Tiger moth Complete Package incl. radio - $150
(need battery charger)
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=343
Best flown in still to under 5 mph breeze.
This is an excellent choice for people who have a smaller space to fly. Can
also be flown indoors in a gym or similar space. Cool looking little plane.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByC...ProdID=GWS1020
Review
http://www.backyardflyer.com/BY/articles/tiger_moth.asp

Tipsey - $55 CL 1
Remove the wing and it goes back in the box for simple
protected transport or keep in the car fun!
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/tipsy.htm
Review
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/pdf/gr6232.pdf
http://rcgroups.com/links/index.php?...at=198&id=3871

Magpie - CL 2
I recommend the $55 package with two wings.
Has slow fly/trainer wing AND an aileron sport wing.
Master the first, then advance to the second.
They offer a complete package with both wings and all the electroncis for $160
Makes it so easy to get it right!
http://www.mountainmodels.com/magpie.php
discussion threads
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...51#post3502851
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295225
Video - slow fly wing
http://www.mountainmodels.com/Magpie.wmv
Sport wing
http://www.mountainmodels.com/MagpieSP.wmv
Dandy - $42 - CL2
Wood kit
http://www.mountainmodels.com/dandy.php
Complete package - $122
Build thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=359035
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295225
Video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/dandy.wmv

Dusk Stik $40 CL2
Balsa Wood Kit
Similar to GWS Slow stick or ParkZone Slo-V in design
http://www.mountainmodels.com/duskstik.php
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295225
Complete package with all electroncis - $112
http://www.mountainmodels.com/duskstik.php
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Old Feb 22, 2006, 06:15 PM
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Wow, well that's a nice list of planes. I'm sure I can find one.

As for the Monsun, it broke a prop. I had it in the air for around 3 seconds. I glued the prop back on, and it actually held. Took it up again for about 7 seconds. I didn't actually crash it, but when it came back down the glued prop hit the ground and broke again.

I had such a hard time because the only place I can take off from is very uneven. I'm going to look in to fields in my area some where, but how crazy would hand launching it be?

I know, I'm stubborn, but if I have the toy I'll play with it. If I can find a field close enough I'll try and head out there this weekend and get some help. Thanks Aeajr, I'll look in to some of those other planes.
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Old Feb 23, 2006, 06:26 PM
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The way that I have found to tell wheter the wind is too stong is... I bought 2 toy pinwheels from the dollar store. Set them out where I'm going to fly. If they're spinning I don't fly.

My2cents
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Old Feb 23, 2006, 07:03 PM
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Cheap and easy. I like it.
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 07:58 PM
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Thank you so much for taking the time to write up this post. I'm back into the hobby after many years away, and in my first 4 seasons had at least one crash for each of these causes not to mention flying in poor light near end-of-day. I'm going to cut 'n paste your post into a document that I carry with me.

Rod Clark
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 09:36 PM
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I'm back into the hobby after many years away, and in my first 4 seasons had at least one crash for each of these causes not to mention flying in poor light near end-of-day. Rod Clark
Your comment about flying in poor light compells me to recount a learning experience.

I had been flying my Aerobird for about 2 months. I had made a repair and wanted to take a test flight.

It was getting close to sundown, but I figured I had time for one flight. So I powere up and give it a toss and up it goes. The plane was climbing very nicely but was not trimmed properly, I had to hold about 50% left rudder to keep it straight but I had it under control.

Just as I was getting ready to turn to come back, the sun dropped below the horizon and I completely lost sight of the plane. I mean GONE! Oh ... NO!

Fortunately, at full throttle, I could just hear the prop spinning, so I didn't dare power back because I was litterally flying the plane by sound. But at full throttle, this plane climbs so now I am tracking by sound as the plane is getting higher. If I power back, I can't hear it. What am I going to do.

So I tried to guess how much rudder to give it to turn back toward the field but not too much or I would put it into a spiral and bring it down ... who knows where!!! If I crashed I would be clueless as to where it went down.

So I am tracking the plane by sound as it is going to the left climbing higher and higher. I hope the battery doesn't give out!

All of a sudden, I can see it. It has climbed higher than I have ever had it, perhaps 400 feet high and it is much higher than I was even looking. But there was a flash, then another as the plane was now high enough that it could catch some of the fading rays of the sun off the bottom of the wings.

Now that I have it spotted, I can power off and glide it down over the field and land it at my feet.

And then I started to breath again.

Needless to day, I never launched THAT close to sunset ever again.
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