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Old Apr 03, 2005, 09:07 PM
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RC Plane recommendations

Hi there!

I'm relatively new to this hobby (only flew an entry level plane about a dozen times), and I wanted to ask a couple of questions:

1. Bearing in mind that I live in London, UK; where can I legally fly a small electric park flyer, like the ones mentioned below?

2. I have searched for flyers, and narrowed it down to 2 choices. One is the Draganfly Super Aviator
http://www.rctoys.com/superaviator.php

and the other a cessna 182
http://www.hobbytron.com/Cessna-182-...-Airplane.html

Both are 3 channel, have a 3-wheel gear set and retail in the same price range (both available in IK or for delivery to UK). Could I ask you for your unbiased opinioons on these aircraft, so I can choose which one I buy?

Alternatively, I am open to your suggestions...

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Old Apr 04, 2005, 12:32 AM
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I've had a quick look at those - the cessna comes with a 72Mhz radio, this is not legal in the UK. I suspect that the superaviator will also be 72Mhz although it didn't say (which is not very helpful). In the UK we use 35Mhz - I would suggest buying your radio gear in this country.

Cheap bundles can look very tempting when you're starting out - these can often work out more expensive in the long run as the equipment you get is often bottom of the range. Buying from abroad can also be tricky due to the frequency issue & then also if any of it is mains powered (charger etc) then there may be different voltages involved.

It is better to fly at a proper flying field - especially if starting out & need help. I do sometimes fly in a small park, but only with small, slow planes - & I also know where the nearest proper flying field is & I know that I am out of range of it to avoid interfering with anyone.

Which part of the country are you in?
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Old Apr 04, 2005, 05:01 AM
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Feds,

Welcome to the Ezone.
You could give a look at: http://plawner.net/3/1st_plane

Apart from the ranking, it helps to decide, on how to select a plane.


Cheers,
Patrick.
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Old Apr 04, 2005, 07:14 AM
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1. Legal flying fields are few and far between in the UK. Generally speaking, you need the owner's permission, and the site needs Planning Consent for model flying. With a genuine park flyer, you might get away with using a large public area, but I wouldn't recommend it. Best bet is to find a club, such as www.lmas.org.uk
2. Try a site like Als Hobbies http://www.alshobbiesstore.com/acata...Flyers_79.html If you find a model that looks good, come back to this forum for a second opinion.
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Old Apr 04, 2005, 01:30 PM
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Thanks for the replies!

I was tending towards the models I posted as I'm looking for a RTF single propeller aircraft, with a tricycle landing gear (although a tail scraper will do). These two happen to be 3-channel, and easier to control for a n00b like me. I'm also planning to fly them in France, in the country, but I don't know about the legal restrictions there. I was tending toward the super aviator as it looked like a solid plane built by a respected company...

On a side note, I have already flown a plane like the easystar, and by the end of my experience with it I was able to fly and land it perfectly in 10+ MPH winds, so I am not a complete newbie to RC flying itself. I just don't know the rules and where-to's involved as I flew the plane in America.

Could anyone tell me, or link to the legal restrictions in place in the UK, and possibly tell me where I can fly such a plane in London (I live in Chelsea, next to Hyde Park).

Thank you again

fedz

edit: I've looked around a bit more, and found these planes, certified for the UK:
Cool aerobatic:
http://www.rchobby.co.uk/rtf_aerobatic_cool.html

Same cessna as before, but UK dealer:
http://www.rchobby.co.uk/rc_model_tr...ne_cessna.html

Decathlon trainer:
http://www.modelmaniacsonline.co.uk/...anCode=PKZ1400

Piper cub
http://www.rchobby.co.uk/j3_cub_-_rtf_plane.html

and finally, my favourite, the Jamara Cessna
http://www.modelcraft.co.uk/index1.h...d=38377.294583

Do you have any recommendations on these aircraft and retailers - or any alternatives?
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Old Apr 05, 2005, 03:14 AM
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I suspect that Hyde Park will be a no-no. If you want, you can probably find info about the rules and regs for most London parks at www.royalparks.gov.uk
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Old Apr 05, 2005, 05:26 AM
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If you're in West London then there are a couple of places that you can fly.

I fly at Wormwood scrubs - there is a dedicated flying area behind some trees in the large grass area behind the prison & Queen Charlotte's Hospital....there are a few dedicated electric guys there, myself included - it's normally quite quiet there, no club - anyone can fly....but insurance is a good idea. If it's nice at the weekend you could do worse than pop over & have a look, I normally fly on Saturdays if the weather is good - if not then I go for Sunday.....most people turn up 12pm onwards with about 3pm being the most busy.

Another alternative is Richmond park, I haven't flown there myself but there is an area allocated for it....I saw a post about it in the high power forum a while back. My concern about flying there would be the number of people walking around....safety may be an issue.
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Old Apr 05, 2005, 05:42 AM
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I would think you might be better off with a tail dragger, to start with.
The piper cub would be best for flight times with a 1300mah nimh battery.

The Jamara cessna, from what I can make out, seems to have a motor on/off setting instead of full throttle control - It also has a 400 motor with a 600mah nicd battery = short flight times.
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Old Apr 05, 2005, 02:27 PM
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I'm leaning towards the Piper. Seems to be well powered, but long charge times. Any hints on how to better that - maybe a better battery, and which one?
I'm still not sure about UK stores, where did you guys buy from?

Here are another two. If they have shorter charge times I'll buy the XXL (first posted). What do you think of them?

Goldeagle XXL:
http://www.rchobby.co.uk/goldeagle_x...el_ready_.html

Goldeagle LXL
http://www.rchobby.co.uk/radio_contr...l_goldeag.html

I'm just a little concerned at the charge times...

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Old May 10, 2011, 06:01 AM
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Soundman, you are right. People still go up there. We now have a page on facebook called 'wormwood scrubs Rc'. We are trying to keep up intrest as we all love the hobby and there are too few places to fly in london. Electric all the way now for me....
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Soundman, you are right. People still go up there. We now have a page on facebook called 'wormwood scrubs Rc'. We are trying to keep up intrest as we all love the hobby and there are too few places to fly in london. Electric all the way now for me....
This might be a new record! Just over 6 years between a post and a response.
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