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Old Mar 01, 2005, 01:15 AM
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I completely with Justin and Joe. I have also seen you out there flying and I can understand why someone might complain. PLEASE do not fly your wing at CB anymore for the time being as it could permanently ruin our ability to fly there.

In my experience the locals have had no problem what so ever with the planes, and many stop and ask questions or watch from their balconies. However it only takes one pissed off resident to get us kicked out.
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Old Mar 01, 2005, 01:17 AM
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Doesn't matter if u can convince me to not fly mine, it not like im the only wing out there...

I don't see them complain about those jet that fly right over... and making trumendous sound. I don't see them complain about the 101... jam with car 24/7. I don't see them complain when people come out and watch us fly, and was amaze with it.

HOW LOUD can this Language context edit by moderator thing be when ur inside your house closing your door? I hope it not as loud like those jet pumping out 15000 pound of thrust.
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Old Mar 01, 2005, 01:30 AM
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Well I for one will be overly sensitive about noise at CB until the city officially grants the park e-flight status. I went out tonight to check on who was flying, and there were a number of planes and a mini-wing that was quiet. By the looks of things no one had any idea what had transpired, and all was as it should be.

I will continue to bring the scanner on weekends (when I can make it), and who ever is bringing the frequency board - THANK YOU. We had no shoot-downs this weekend that I was aware of.
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Old Mar 01, 2005, 01:36 AM
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My question is...How can anybody hear our evil flying wings with the scale aircraft flying at 800ft in the pattern to land at the airport, the kids on those abnoxious gas scooters zooming around, the cars driving 75mph on the FREEWAY 1000ft away, the traffic on Galvston, the neighbor mowing his lawn, the guy in his garage using a circular saw and on and on...I smell a conspiracy...probably just some wing hater RC pilot making crank calls to the city or dressing up like a city employee going around playing god.
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Old Mar 01, 2005, 01:46 AM
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Ok... thread close.
I regret to even started this thread.
Thanks all.. for the pros and cons


Mod please delete this thread if u don't mind.
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Old Mar 01, 2005, 06:26 AM
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Lets take the word "wing" out of the equation. The issue is that someone complained about the noise. Regardless of whether it's a wing or a Slow Stick if it's loud enough to attract attention it shouldn't be flown there until some sort of standards can be adopted. I love flying my MiniBOP but I know it could cause problems due to the noise. I've had no complaints yet but if I do I won't jeopardize a flying site just because I want to fly it. You have the idea that it's your right to fly it (loud plane) anywhere you want and anytime you please. Well, I guess you can. Up to the point that you get yourself and everyone else kicked out. Then what will you do?


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Old Mar 01, 2005, 08:30 AM
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This reminds me of the mid 80's when we used to get harrassed for flying our 60 size nitro heli's with tuned pipes. The same sound coming from a fixed wing was TOTALLY acceptable but heli's were considered evil. They knew they were wrong but they still hated change.
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Old Mar 01, 2005, 09:32 AM
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Good Grief I think I will stay out of this one.
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Old Mar 01, 2005, 12:51 PM
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This thread is gettimg close to personal attacks. Please keep it civil.

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Old Mar 02, 2005, 02:02 PM
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Doesn't seem closed to me...
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Old Mar 02, 2005, 02:35 PM
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Its not about the noise. Just anouther excuse.
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Old Mar 02, 2005, 04:49 PM
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No, it is about the noise. It is NOT about the airframe.

If we are going to continue flying there, we have to be good neighbors. Think, just for a moment, about the other guy. Don't annoy the people in the apartments and don't distract drivers on the road or the kids playing baseball. Take the complaints seriously - don't question and argue. There is no chance we can win if it comes to an argument of "rights".

And I agree with Justin. After (if) we get the field sanctioned, then we will have clear boundaries.

And I don't fly on weekend mornings anymore because people are not careful with the radios. I hope that some regulations will help that, too.
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Old Mar 02, 2005, 06:46 PM
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La la land.

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No, it is about the noise. It is NOT about the airframe.

If we are going to continue flying there, we have to be good neighbors. Think, just for a moment, about the other guy. Don't annoy the people in the apartments and don't distract drivers on the road or the kids playing baseball. Take the complaints seriously - don't question and argue. There is no chance we can win if it comes to an argument of "rights".

And I agree with Justin. After (if) we get the field sanctioned, then we will have clear boundaries.

And I don't fly on weekend mornings anymore because people are not careful with the radios. I hope that some regulations will help that, too.
I guess most everone on this thread havent read the ama guidelines.CB can never be sanctioned ama.To close to evthing houses roads freeways and less than 2 mi from an airport. Ama wouldnt cover squat even if the city aproved it for e flight.There are not any noise ordinances in chandler that I know of that are before 10 pm.The harleys on the freeway 500 ft away are louder than my wing.If I want to fly there I will! This is free country.I love the usa.
Chris.If they come up with new noise ordinance I will fly elsewhere.
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Old Mar 02, 2005, 06:59 PM
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I went down there once with my MSW 250, and J 250's are pretty loud. Its right, that there are so many other things that are a lot louder than the airplanes there, like all of the things asmokindeal said. And what about the hotliners that people fly there- they are runnin like, more than 200 watts with a BL motor and going way, way high to where i cant even see them, and wing pilots dont fly that high (i dont anyway). And even import cars with the huge exhaust on it are pretty loud.

I went there once, but i think im going to stick with my local park and fly there. Its pretty darn big, and no one else flys there.

I guess that when people see something fast they hear it louder or something, or maybe people like the slow lazy flyers more because theyre less "dangerous". Kind of like insurance rates for younger people compared to rates for older people. I sure think its all stupid though.

I wish you guys good luck, and i hope the city people get less stupid.

later
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