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Old Feb 24, 2005, 05:35 PM
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One big challenge for you all!!!

I've got a challenge for all you boating guys and gals.
There's been this dream I've been having about landing a remote control airplane on a remote control aircraft carrier.

Anyone share this dream?
When Im older and I have the money, I know for sure Im gonna give it a shot.

The carrier should have an arrestor cable system and some sort of a catapult launching system.

The airplane should probably be light, maybe even electric. If we wanted to get really realistic and use a turbine jet, then the ship would have to be very large!

Please post all your knowledge and ideas here.
Hopefullly a few of you will take up this challenge(on a small scale or a large scale).

'Maybe the moderator's could post this in the appropriate Aircraft forums, so that the flyers could colaborate with the boaters.'
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Old Feb 24, 2005, 07:41 PM
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My research ship has an option for a helicopter landing pad on the bow.

A friend of mine has a micro heli that runs on batteries. They are very hard to fly outside but he says that theoretically he could land it on my ship. He can easily land it on a mens handkercheif about 50 feet away.

from browsing the air forums, you would need a flight deck about 20ft long for a small model airplane to land on.

Definately post pics or a small vid if you ever get it done
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Old Feb 24, 2005, 07:47 PM
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Yea the helicopter would be cool. How big is that boat?
The ship would not need to 20ft long if it had some sort of an arrestor system.
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Old Feb 24, 2005, 08:02 PM
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Jeff Churill built a 11 foot freighter. Thats about the size youd need. Try contacting him. Hes on the board here.
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Old Feb 24, 2005, 08:07 PM
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Ok, hopefully Jeff Churill will peak in here and lend some info.
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Old Feb 24, 2005, 09:13 PM
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EP

The research boat is 5' 3' without the HCpad...when its finished, I only have the plans ATM. I scaled the plans form a real RV which is 170' long.

The reason I suggested 20' is from watching guys land their planes. Agreed that a plane with the proper arrester system could stop in a few feet. What you need to account for is 'touch-down error', given that the planes controller probably wont be that close to the ship. The easiest position to control will be from behind due to the narrow target. Unfortunately this leads to 'depth of field' errors. When we test prospective pilots, we get them to look down a long square tube about 6' long. At the end is a fixed pole about pencil size. on a sliding track about 6" away is another pole. The subject has to move the pole and judge when the 2 poles are aligned. The test is performed under several different light condition (bright to dark)

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Old Feb 24, 2005, 09:46 PM
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Jeff C

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Ok, hopefully Jeff Churill will peak in here and lend some info.
Ill tell him abou it
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Old Feb 24, 2005, 11:34 PM
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See the Last post here
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...4&page=2&pp=15

Arrows post here
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=20

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=24


And how he gets this puppy around...
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Old Feb 25, 2005, 12:56 AM
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With the "model" about 20' long and arrester cables, you'll probably have a real person or two inside to disconnect the tailhook and operate the cat. Don't be suprised if the state or provincial boating safety law enforcemnet types make you get a license for the model. In 1995 or 96, I was talking with Lee Upsahe (Scale Shipyard) at the the Toledo Show. A gentleman came up and showed us a few pictures of a 20' or so carrier that his plane club made - it was on a trailer and powered by an electric trolling motor. They had a two man crew to disconnect the planes and line them up for takeoff. His biggest complaint was that the state DNR made them get a license for the boat and carry the USCG required safety equipment.
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Old Feb 25, 2005, 01:24 AM
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CG Bob, so you mean it's been done? Where could I get more information on this?
Do you have any videos or footage? etc...?

Cool

I was thinking maybe using a small sport fishing boat and converting it to RC?
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Old Feb 25, 2005, 01:56 AM
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Yes, it's been done. IIRC the airplane club was flying 1/28 scale Guillows models of WWII F4F Wildcats and TBM/TBF Avenger torpedo planes on a model of an escort carrier. The guy who told us about it was from west of the Mississippi. He only had a few photos, his biggest complaint was they were required to get the state numbers on the bow of the carrier. I don't have any photos of it or any leads.
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Old Feb 25, 2005, 09:19 AM
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...All I can say is that those guys are a @#$% of a lot better fliers than I am (which ain't saying much)! LOL
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