Need an Idea for a kids plane

Rivethead · Mar 12, 2002, 09:41 PM

I am looking for an idea of something for my son to fly. Either BUY or BUILD.
I have had some bad crashes lately with balsa and reynolds wrap planes, they realy don't hold up for a beginner. I just got a bundle of Bluecor and was thinking of making some kind of plane with the prop after the wing or on the tail. Maybe something like a tipsy but a really slow one. I also bought a few Sky riders from walmart to try and convert for him, I read somewhere that someone did one for their nephew or something and it worked well.

Thanks

Rivethead

temacc · Mar 12, 2002, 09:47 PM

What size? What power systems do you have/want to buy?

I built my son a Kadet Senior to learn on - extended the wing to 91 inches for a Real floater...but you can't fly that with a 280 motor. Takes at least 12 cells.

How many cells, and how much motor, do you have/are you used to?

Terry

Rivethead · Mar 12, 2002, 09:57 PM

I was hoping to use something like a DXA and Qualcomm 830 setup, that way he won't have to worry about charging(I got 5 of them). I put an order in to Todd's for a few different motor/prop setups, but mostly smaller stuff under 5 amps. I got a GWS pico and a JR micro in flight packs.

Rivethead

LittleMoose · Mar 13, 2002, 12:08 AM

I just finished a bluecore L-19 Bird dog project powered by a DXA motor and Qualcom. Test flew tonight in a 5 MPH breeze and it was great. It has a 37" wingspan and controls are elevator and aileron. In calm weather it will be a great trainer for my 7 and 9 year old sons. Would be glad to describe the construction with you if you are interested.

Oh, in testing, these are durable enough to plow straight into the ground after missing a loop and with minor repairs fly minutes later. Took a total of 2 hours from concept to test flight!

Regards,
Mike Moore

FlyByMike · Mar 13, 2002, 12:13 AM

Mike, How about a picture too ?

Rivethead · Mar 13, 2002, 02:04 AM

It sounds like just what I been looking for, and besides I dying to start into the bluecor. My son is 8 and he want to help me build it.

Thanks!

Chris

Quote:

Originally posted by LittleMoose
I just finished a bluecore L-19 Bird dog project powered by a DXA motor and Qualcom. Test flew tonight in a 5 MPH breeze and it was great. It has a 37" wingspan and controls are elevator and aileron. In calm weather it will be a great trainer for my 7 and 9 year old sons. Would be glad to describe the construction with you if you are interested.

Oh, in testing, these are durable enough to plow straight into the ground after missing a loop and with minor repairs fly minutes later. Took a total of 2 hours from concept to test flight!

Regards,
Mike Moore

emoone · Mar 13, 2002, 05:52 AM

Here's exactly what you need.

http://216.40.226.212/~admin2/forums...ight=blue+frog

Pusher prop blue foam with a small engine.

LittleMoose · Mar 13, 2002, 12:22 PM

Here is a photo of the first prototype. Second looks much better but was given away to my boss! If you are still interested please e-mail me and I will explain my building methods. Also, if you have the capability to print out plans I could send you a file you can print out for the profiles.

Mike

Mikerjf · Mar 13, 2002, 01:19 PM

Get a Teddy. My niece loves hers, and if you do bang it up, 5 minute epoxy or Elmers fixes it (depends on how much of a rush your in). $50, Hobby People.

Mike

Hippo · Mar 13, 2002, 01:39 PM

Thanks Eddie,

I didn't see this thread right away. I do think that the Frog is perfect for a beginner. I taught my neighboor to fly in about 1 lesson with my Frog the other day. I fly mine with the GWS DX-A (same as Tigermoth or Litestick) and the Qualcomm 830 Li-Ion batteries. 34" wingspan, 7.5oz with the QC batts. I routinely get 30+ minute flights with that motor and battery combo. Plus I've dorked mine into the ground at full throttle. (I had elevator and rudder servos reversed, so technically it's not my fault.

So I know it's durable.

I do sell the plane as a kit for $45 + shipping, but seeing has how you've already got a pack of BlueCor, maybe we could work something out for just plans. On the kits, the wing is heat formed, but it is possible to hand bend one into shape. (It's just not as attractive.)

I'm currently talking to some foam molding companies about getting the frog produced from the same material as the carry out containers. I'd love to add all kinds of curves to the design. Anything along those lines won't happen for months, so I'd like to see more people flying the Frog in the meantime.

Please get in touch,
-Dan

pcaffeldt · Mar 13, 2002, 01:56 PM

I thought your prototype Bird Dog looked Great !

I know you were talking with Rivethead about getting some plans to him. I'd really be interested in those plans, too !

Do you suppose you could email be a set ? And maybe any building insights and specs.

I'd be most greatful.

Paul

U2Steve · Mar 13, 2002, 02:22 PM

Hey Hippo: How do I get a Frog?

Harm Botman · Mar 13, 2002, 03:06 PM

Hai there,
Cant help sharing these picts in this thread. Taken last weekend by Niek. A "Slowboy" buzzing around. Flown by the youngest indoor pilot from Holland: Max, 5 years old!
Enjoy!
HB

http://forum.modelvliegen.com/showth...=&threadid=608

Clu · Mar 13, 2002, 03:12 PM

Mini-IFO. Nearly indestructible, and uses the DXA and Qualcomm 830's

FlyByMike · Mar 13, 2002, 03:40 PM

Harm:
Gosh, it's cool seeing Max fly! Is he yours? I'm trying to get my 11 yr.old going and the Slowboy looks like a nice solution.

I am also trying to start a club where his classmates can fly in the school gym (and I get to fly indoors

). Something like the Slowboy might work; can you post a link for this plane ?

Mike: I can build the Bird Dog from you picture.

Hippo: I've already told you I thought the Frog was cool

Mar 12, 2002, 09:41 PM	#1
Rivethead Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pocono Mountains, PA Posts: 197	Need an Idea for a kids plane I am looking for an idea of something for my son to fly. Either BUY or BUILD. I have had some bad crashes lately with balsa and reynolds wrap planes, they realy don't hold up for a beginner. I just got a bundle of Bluecor and was thinking of making some kind of plane with the prop after the wing or on the tail. Maybe something like a tipsy but a really slow one. I also bought a few Sky riders from walmart to try and convert for him, I read somewhere that someone did one for their nephew or something and it worked well. Thanks Rivethead

Mar 13, 2002, 12:22 PM	#8
LittleMoose Jalapeño Flyer Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: New Mexico Posts: 97	Here is a photo of the first prototype. Second looks much better but was given away to my boss! If you are still interested please e-mail me and I will explain my building methods. Also, if you have the capability to print out plans I could send you a file you can print out for the profiles. Mike Attached Thumbnails 15.0 KB · Views: 596

Mar 13, 2002, 01:39 PM	#10
Hippo That thing flies? Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan Posts: 1,618	The Blue Frog Thanks Eddie, I didn't see this thread right away. I do think that the Frog is perfect for a beginner. I taught my neighboor to fly in about 1 lesson with my Frog the other day. I fly mine with the GWS DX-A (same as Tigermoth or Litestick) and the Qualcomm 830 Li-Ion batteries. 34" wingspan, 7.5oz with the QC batts. I routinely get 30+ minute flights with that motor and battery combo. Plus I've dorked mine into the ground at full throttle. (I had elevator and rudder servos reversed, so technically it's not my fault. So I know it's durable. I do sell the plane as a kit for $45 + shipping, but seeing has how you've already got a pack of BlueCor, maybe we could work something out for just plans. On the kits, the wing is heat formed, but it is possible to hand bend one into shape. (It's just not as attractive.) I'm currently talking to some foam molding companies about getting the frog produced from the same material as the carry out containers. I'd love to add all kinds of curves to the design. Anything along those lines won't happen for months, so I'd like to see more people flying the Frog in the meantime. Please get in touch, -Dan Last edited by Hippo; Mar 13, 2002 at 01:42 PM.

Mar 13, 2002, 01:56 PM	#11
pcaffeldt In Minn-E-So-Cold Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 404	L-19 Bird Dog I thought your prototype Bird Dog looked Great ! I know you were talking with Rivethead about getting some plans to him. I'd really be interested in those plans, too ! Do you suppose you could email be a set ? And maybe any building insights and specs. I'd be most greatful. Paul

Mar 13, 2002, 03:06 PM	#13
Harm Botman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Hillegom, Netherlands Posts: 543	Youngest indoor pilot? Hai there, Cant help sharing these picts in this thread. Taken last weekend by Niek. A "Slowboy" buzzing around. Flown by the youngest indoor pilot from Holland: Max, 5 years old! Enjoy! HB http://forum.modelvliegen.com/showth...=&threadid=608

Mar 12, 2002, 09:47 PM	#2
temacc H2OFLY Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 2,509	What size? What power systems do you have/want to buy? I built my son a Kadet Senior to learn on - extended the wing to 91 inches for a Real floater...but you can't fly that with a 280 motor. Takes at least 12 cells. How many cells, and how much motor, do you have/are you used to? Terry

Mar 12, 2002, 09:57 PM	#3
Rivethead Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pocono Mountains, PA Posts: 197	I was hoping to use something like a DXA and Qualcomm 830 setup, that way he won't have to worry about charging(I got 5 of them). I put an order in to Todd's for a few different motor/prop setups, but mostly smaller stuff under 5 amps. I got a GWS pico and a JR micro in flight packs. Rivethead

Mar 13, 2002, 12:08 AM	#4
LittleMoose Jalapeño Flyer Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: New Mexico Posts: 97	I just finished a bluecore L-19 Bird dog project powered by a DXA motor and Qualcom. Test flew tonight in a 5 MPH breeze and it was great. It has a 37" wingspan and controls are elevator and aileron. In calm weather it will be a great trainer for my 7 and 9 year old sons. Would be glad to describe the construction with you if you are interested. Oh, in testing, these are durable enough to plow straight into the ground after missing a loop and with minor repairs fly minutes later. Took a total of 2 hours from concept to test flight! Regards, Mike Moore

Mar 13, 2002, 12:13 AM	#5
FlyByMike Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,283	Mike, How about a picture too ?

Mar 13, 2002, 05:52 AM	#7
emoone Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: La Grange, Georgia, United States Posts: 797	Here's exactly what you need. http://216.40.226.212/~admin2/forums...ight=blue+frog Pusher prop blue foam with a small engine.

Mar 13, 2002, 01:19 PM	#9
Mikerjf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Wayne, NJ Posts: 473	Get a Teddy. My niece loves hers, and if you do bang it up, 5 minute epoxy or Elmers fixes it (depends on how much of a rush your in). $50, Hobby People. Mike

Mar 13, 2002, 02:22 PM	#12
U2Steve Now with more COWBELL! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lexington, KY, USA Posts: 793	Hey Hippo: How do I get a Frog?

Mar 13, 2002, 03:12 PM	#14
Clu Glavin! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 279	Mini-IFO. Nearly indestructible, and uses the DXA and Qualcomm 830's

Mar 13, 2002, 03:40 PM	#15
FlyByMike Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,283	Harm: Gosh, it's cool seeing Max fly! Is he yours? I'm trying to get my 11 yr.old going and the Slowboy looks like a nice solution. I am also trying to start a club where his classmates can fly in the school gym (and I get to fly indoors ). Something like the Slowboy might work; can you post a link for this plane ? Mike: I can build the Bird Dog from you picture. Hippo: I've already told you I thought the Frog was cool

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