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Old Jan 16, 2005, 01:48 PM
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why people don't like zagis

Is it because of the noise generated from the pusher prop configuration? Is it the lack of a proper tail assembly? Is it the careless and reckless manner in which they can often be seen flitting about? Why do the slope guys all call them "slope trash"? I was just wondering
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 01:56 PM
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It's been awhile since you have gone fishing. Nice cast, start reeling them in
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 01:58 PM
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So tic, just testing the waters to see how long this thread lasts before some hapless mod closes it?

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Old Jan 16, 2005, 02:01 PM
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I really don't see anything wrong with this thread.. It doesn't insult anyone, it asks some important questions and it is RC related.
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 02:13 PM
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Don't put the problems all onto Zagis. They may be the most popular tailless airplanes at the moment, but all the problems you cited are typical of any tailless airplane so configured. I have a non-Zagi wing that I flew a few times, then abandoned, because it was hard for my weenie reflexes to handle.

On the other hand, I've seen one of our club members handle his Zagi in expert fashion. To each his own.

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Old Jan 16, 2005, 02:18 PM
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Weenie reflexes?.... I'd get a warning if I posted that.
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 02:25 PM
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Maybe people don't like zagi's because they fall into the pretend airplane catagory, like flying brooms, lawnmowers, outhouses, etc. Ya, I know there are a couple of real planes that are flying wings but if they were so great there would be more of them, and people would not hate them. All real self respecting planes have tails.
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 02:25 PM
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I really don't see anything wrong with this thread.. It doesn't insult anyone, it asks some important questions and it is RC related.

I agree with you somewhat, but it like posting about religion in off topic: LTUaP, someone always gets their kinickers in a bundle over something, then the thread turns stupid and ugly. Me, I could care less about the darn things, let whoever wants to fly 'em do it, just not in my gated community.
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 02:48 PM
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It's the same reason the American Auto Association has for its vendetta against big trucks on the highway:

People don't like Zagis because in a mid-air collision, the Zagi wins and you lose.
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 02:49 PM
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I didn't know fishing season was open already.
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 02:52 PM
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Is it because of the noise generated from the pusher prop configuration? ........Is it the careless and reckless manner in which they can often be seen flitting about?
My Hyperwing is a LOT louder than my "normal" planes, but I can hear the battery sagging before LVC kicks in so it does have some benefits. I think one of the reasons RC guys don't like Zagis is because they're flown by the "young punks", and the "old geezers" that make up a lot of clubs are resentfull. If anybody in a club made remarks about my wing I'd tell him to go get bent. I fly mine at a reclaimed strip mine site that's marked "no motorized vehicles" and is owned by the game commission, it's 1/2 mile wide and 1 1/2 miles across. I don't have to worry about "club geezers".
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 03:12 PM
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Because you dont like them, and everybody wants to be just like you?
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 03:36 PM
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you get into this hobby usually starting out simple, say with a flying wing for example. then you progress and move up to the harder to fly and harder to build models...leaving the flying wings in the dust, or what ever model it was that started you out. I left flying wings for sport planes and jets. now I'm trying my hand at pylon racers. then something happened... I built another wing just to see if anythings changed. this time I built it better and went with a wider 14" cord. and all I can say is that I'll be keeping this thing around. I can luanch and land it just about any where. it will climb to 1000 feet in less then 20 seconds and will glide forever.
do you think maybe it has something to do with the fact that when the non flying wings guys make the occasional mistake which ends up in a expensive crash, we know that in the back of our minds the zagi guys crash for fun and keep fly'n
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 04:32 PM
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No, I think it's because alot of people just think they are obnoxious.
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 04:44 PM
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Tic's visit to the Pompano Hill Flyer's South Florida landfill flying site last April:

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Me, Amos, Tic, and Mark:

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