Originally Posted by Tonystott

I use contact cement (eg Shoogoo or similar) because when it lets go, it does so partially, so handling gets a bit squirelly, but you don't lose control, and you can then redo it. Lots of people suggest that there is too much flx in double-sided tape, whereas contact cement holds the servo really tightly.

I use the thin double sided tape or Shoe Goo. Jarhead

I've got ~5 hours on my dragonfly 2004 and the tail motor seems to be getting weak. Is that fast? Did I do anything wrong? There is a capacitor or something on the back of the motor which has been banged around a bit and maybe isn't connected properly and doing its job anymore.

I ordered a replacement, but if they die this quickly, maybe I should use other parts, especially now that I'm flying with LiPo batteries. Like90 recommends the GWS IPS motor for the tail. Do people use that? Have people upgraded to brushless tails for longer life?

GWS, if the tail motors don't last very long, maybe you should make a brushless or belt-drive system.

Originally Posted by KeithCu

I've got ~5 hours on my dragonfly 2004 and the tail motor seems to be getting weak. Is that fast? Did I do anything wrong? There is a capacitor or something on the back of the motor which has been banged around a bit and maybe isn't connected properly and doing its job anymore.

I ordered a replacement, but if they die this quickly, maybe I should use other parts, especially now that I'm flying with LiPo batteries. Like90 recommends the GWS IPS motor for the tail. Do people use that? Have people upgraded to brushless tails for longer life?

GWS, if the tail motors don't last very long, maybe you should make a brushless or belt-drive system.

Are you running 2s or 3s lipo packs? 3s will burn out the tail very quick.

I've been waiting for my tail to burn out so i can replace it with a brushless.... but it just keeps going strong. As a matter of fact the tail motor is about the only thing i have not replaced .

IMHO, its not worth going brushless on your tail unless you're already running a brushless main.

I'm running 2s.

Originally Posted by KeithCu

I've got ~5 hours on my dragonfly 2004 and the tail motor seems to be getting weak. Is that fast? Did I do anything wrong? There is a capacitor or something on the back of the motor which has been banged around a bit and maybe isn't connected properly and doing its job anymore.

I ordered a replacement, but if they die this quickly, maybe I should use other parts, especially now that I'm flying with LiPo batteries. Like90 recommends the GWS IPS motor for the tail. Do people use that? Have people upgraded to brushless tails for longer life?

GWS, if the tail motors don't last very long, maybe you should make a brushless or belt-drive system.

Did you check your tail motor may be bent shaft due to the tail rotor hit something during heavy landing or heavy shocked?

GWS tail motor come with carbone brush build in as B2C motor. IPS motor too!

Our motor last 2~3 times longer than the other China copies.

Originally Posted by KeithCu

I've got ~5 hours on my dragonfly 2004 and the tail motor seems to be getting weak. Is that fast? Did I do anything wrong? There is a capacitor or something on the back of the motor which has been banged around a bit and maybe isn't connected properly and doing its job anymore.

I ordered a replacement, but if they die this quickly, maybe I should use other parts, especially now that I'm flying with LiPo batteries. Like90 recommends the GWS IPS motor for the tail. Do people use that? Have people upgraded to brushless tails for longer life?

GWS, if the tail motors don't last very long, maybe you should make a brushless or belt-drive system.

Contact my friend Richard at richard@gws.com.tw he is the man for the questions. Jarhead

I am going flying today. I am flying 3D, Slow, pattern and heli. Will post some pics when I return. Jarhead

Originally Posted by Jarhead

I am going flying today. I am flying 3D, Slow, pattern and heli. Will post some pics when I return. Jarhead

hey jarhead, you need to quit playing school

Originally Posted by davejp21

hey jarhead, you need to quit playing school

Jarhead the School Boy! I like that

My dragonfly didn't come with a set, but my friend who ordered an all in one dragonfly kit got them.

I just put them (mounting them as far out as they could go) hoping to make the dragonfly more stable, though I've finally got it quite stable without them.

Any advice on where to put them or whether they are still necessary?

Having a great time flying mine. Very comfortable with tail in hovering now, and only need the training wheels when it's facing me.

I've had to crank down the max throttle more and more as it doesn't have enough resolution otherwise. I wonder if I could tweak the throttle curve on my radio

BTW, got a new tail motor, put it in with some soldering help from a friend, broke it in by running it very slowly with no prop on, and I hope it will last me for a year till I'm ready for a brushless CP belt drive GWS dragonfly.

Originally Posted by KeithCu

My dragonfly didn't come with a set, but my friend who ordered an all in one dragonfly kit got them.

I just put them (mounting them as far out as they could go) hoping to make the dragonfly more stable, though I've finally got it quite stable without them.

Any advice on where to put them or whether they are still necessary?

Having a great time flying mine. Very comfortable with tail in hovering now, and only need the training wheels when it's facing me.

I've had to crank down the max throttle more and more as it doesn't have enough resolution otherwise. I wonder if I could tweak the throttle curve on my radio

BTW, got a new tail motor, put it in with some soldering help from a friend, broke it in by running it very slowly with no prop on, and I hope it will last me for a year till I'm ready for a brushless CP belt drive GWS dragonfly.

Keith, The weights are to make the heli more stable. Are you needing more stability? if not you do not need them. If so you put them all the way out for easy control and move them in for manuverability. Jarhead

Posted earlier but too small. Jarhead hard at work at GWS USA working on your Choppers to keep them flying! Jarhead

Jarhead

Back on the boards again at last, Jarhead Im sorry I did not get a chance to go to the RCX show I would have loved to meet you. I introduced my brother to the Dragonfly and he will be buying a complete kit soon all GWS baby! he is going to start with the EM150 and learn how it all works-little brother me will help him get all the kinks worked out make the learning cure a lot smaller I hope.

After seeing the pictures is that he GWS offices your sitting at?

Wow now im real jelious can I have your seat for just one day!

Or even just a tour of the building.

Robert

Originally Posted by tallflyer

Jarhead

Back on the boards again at last, Jarhead Im sorry I did not get a chance to go to the RCX show I would have loved to meet you. I introduced my brother to the Dragonfly and he will be buying a complete kit soon all GWS baby! he is going to start with the EM150 and learn how it all works-little brother me will help him get all the kinks worked out make the learning cure a lot smaller I hope.

After seeing the pictures is that he GWS offices your sitting at?

Wow now im real jelious can I have your seat for just one day!

Or even just a tour of the building.

Robert

Thanks Robert, I'll be down your way on July 9th and 10th. Jeff

Let me know if any of you can be there. Jeff