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Old Jan 02, 2005, 06:03 PM
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PLEASE HELP! Richmond No. 1 horizontal milling machine???

Hello all,

I live here in the United States and I just purchased a horizontal milling machine that I think is of european origin. I can't seem to find any information on this machine at all and was wondering if any of you have ever heard of it? Description as follows.

Facing the front of the machine on the top left hand side, it says Richmond in the casting. Below that there is an aluminum plate that says Atlas Engineering Company, London.

On the right hand side of the machine there is an aluminum plate that says the following, Type 11, Serial# 4822, Richmond, No. 1 Milling Machine, and a graphical chart for speeds. Right below that there is a smaller aluminum plate that has a graphical chart for feeds.

On the bottom right and left sides of the machine in the casting, it says the following, Midgley & Sutcliffe Ltd, Hunslet Leeds 10

I would greatly appreciate any knowledge of this machine. If you have manuals, specifications etc. or any information at all please let me know. Thank you in advance for any help!


Sincerely,

Audie Murphy
MURF'S MALLARD
2140 Hooper Road
Yuba City, CA 95993
Phone: 866-426-8737
Fax: 530-822-7988
Email: audie@murfsmallard.com
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Old Jan 03, 2005, 12:11 AM
Nigel Eaton
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Re: PLEASE HELP! Richmond No. 1 horizontal milling machine???

In article <murfs_mallard.1i9awb@rcgroups.com>, murfs_mallard
<murfs_mallard.1i9awb@rcgroups.com> writes
>
>Hello all,
>
>I live here in the United States and I just purchased a horizontal
>milling machine that I think is of european origin. I can't seem to
>find any information on this machine at all and was wondering if any of
>you have ever heard of it? Description as follows.
>
>Facing the front of the machine on the top left hand side, it says
>Richmond in the casting. Below that there is an aluminum plate that
>says Atlas Engineering Company, London.
>
>On the right hand side of the machine there is an aluminum plate
>that says the following, Type 11, Serial# 4822, Richmond, No. 1 Milling
>Machine, and a graphical chart for speeds. Right below that there is a
>smaller aluminum plate that has a graphical chart for feeds.
>
>On the bottom right and left sides of the machine in the casting,
>it says the following, Midgley & Sutcliffe Ltd, Hunslet Leeds 10
>
>I would greatly appreciate any knowledge of this machine. If you
>have manuals, specifications etc. or any information at all please let
>me know. Thank you in advance for any help!


Audie,

Without knowing any better, it sounds to me like you might have bought a
"Bitza" milling machine[1].

I'd recommend a good look around www.lathes.co.uk. If it's not on there,
it probably doesn't exist. Ignore the half-ton of metal in your
workshop, it doesn't exist. ;^)

Good luck.

[1] "Bitza" this, "bitza" that...

--
Nigel

When the only tools you have are a Bridgeport, a CNC Taig Mill, a Colchester
and assorted other stuff, every problem looks like a steam engine.

Old Jan 03, 2005, 04:12 AM
Tom
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Re: PLEASE HELP! Richmond No. 1 horizontal milling machine???

murfs_mallard wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I live here in the United States and I just purchased a horizontal
> milling machine that I think is of european origin. I can't seem to
> find any information on this machine at all and was wondering if any of
> you have ever heard of it? Description as follows.
>
> Facing the front of the machine on the top left hand side, it says
> Richmond in the casting. Below that there is an aluminum plate that
> says Atlas Engineering Company, London.
>
> On the right hand side of the machine there is an aluminum plate
> that says the following, Type 11, Serial# 4822, Richmond, No. 1 Milling
> Machine, and a graphical chart for speeds. Right below that there is a
> smaller aluminum plate that has a graphical chart for feeds.
>
> On the bottom right and left sides of the machine in the casting,
> it says the following, Midgley & Sutcliffe Ltd, Hunslet Leeds 10
>
> I would greatly appreciate any knowledge of this machine. If you
> have manuals, specifications etc. or any information at all please let
> me know. Thank you in advance for any help!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Audie Murphy
> MURF'S MALLARD
> 2140 Hooper Road
> Yuba City, CA 95993
> Phone: 866-426-8737
> Fax: 530-822-7988
> Email: audie@murfsmallard.com
>
> --
> murfs_mallard


Your machne was made by Midgley & Sutcliffe in 1952.
Yell if you want a scan of the specs, I'm not into
typing screeds..

Tom
Old Jan 03, 2005, 06:11 AM
Andrew Mawson
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Re: PLEASE HELP! Richmond No. 1 horizontal milling machine???


"murfs_mallard" <murfs_mallard.1i9awb@rcgroups.com> wrote in message
news:murfs_mallard.1i9awb@rcgroups.com...
>
> Hello all,
>
> I live here in the United States and I just purchased a horizontal
> milling machine that I think is of european origin. I can't seem to
> find any information on this machine at all and was wondering if any

of
> you have ever heard of it? Description as follows.
>
> Facing the front of the machine on the top left hand side, it says
> Richmond in the casting. Below that there is an aluminum plate that
> says Atlas Engineering Company, London.
>
> On the right hand side of the machine there is an aluminum plate
> that says the following, Type 11, Serial# 4822, Richmond, No. 1

Milling
> Machine, and a graphical chart for speeds. Right below that there

is a
> smaller aluminum plate that has a graphical chart for feeds.
>
> On the bottom right and left sides of the machine in the casting,
> it says the following, Midgley & Sutcliffe Ltd, Hunslet Leeds 10
>
> I would greatly appreciate any knowledge of this machine. If you
> have manuals, specifications etc. or any information at all please

let
> me know. Thank you in advance for any help!
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Audie Murphy
> MURF'S MALLARD
> 2140 Hooper Road
> Yuba City, CA 95993
> Phone: 866-426-8737
> Fax: 530-822-7988
> Email: audie@murfsmallard.com
>
>
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> murfs_mallard
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Years back (maybe 15) I had a Richmond No 1. It was a true universal
in that the table swivled as well as going in X & Y, and was suposed
to have a vertical head though I never got one. The spindle was No 3
morse with flats on the bigger end for positive dirve, and the overarm
was dovetails. Very nice machine. Sorry don't (nor ever did) have any
technical literature on it.

There was someone asking similar questions recently re: a Richmond No1
on either rec.crafts.metalworking or the Chaski board I don't recall
which.

AWEM


Old Jan 03, 2005, 06:28 AM
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Please Email Specs. Tom

Tom

If you would please email me a scan of the specs. you have for this machine I would greatly appreciate it. I have been searching high and low for weeks, you are a true life saver.
Thank you, Thank you and Thank you again!


Sincerely,

Audie Murphy
MURF'S MALLARD
2140 Hooper Road
Yuba City, CA 95993
Phone: 866-426-8737
Fax: 530-822-7988
Email: audie@murfsmallard.com
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Old Jan 03, 2005, 06:39 AM
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Andrew Mawson,

Thank you for your input also. Every time I ask somebody about Morse Taper 3 tooling with the drive flats, they look at me like I am crazy or something. It's nice to know I am not the only one.
My machine does have the swiveling table, but the ram for the arbor support is round not a dovetail like yours was. I got two end mill holders with it, one was made with the flats and the other somebody custom ground their own flats on and I also have a 1" dia. arbor for saws, shells etc... I also have a power feed on this machine, there is a drive line on the right hand side looking at the machine that runs from underneath the table down to a gear-box towards the back.
Thank you for your help!


Sincerely,

Audie Murphy
MURF'S MALLARD
2140 Hooper Road
Yuba City, CA 95993
Phone: 866-426-8737
Fax: 530-822-7988
Email: audie@murfsmallard.com
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Old Jan 03, 2005, 08:11 AM
Charles Ping
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>
>There was someone asking similar questions recently re: a Richmond No1
>on either rec.crafts.metalworking or the Chaski board I don't recall
>which.
>


'Twas Mark Jones

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//Fo...ML/009537.html

Since he's over here you can't both have been after the same machine!

Charles


Old Jan 03, 2005, 12:11 PM
Tom
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Re: PLEASE HELP! Richmond No. 1 horizontal milling machine???

murfs_mallard wrote:
>
> Tom
>
> If you would please email me a scan of the specs. you have for
> this machine I would greatly appreciate it. I have been searching high
> and low for weeks, you are a true life saver.
> Thank you, Thank you and Thank you again!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Audie Murphy
> MURF'S MALLARD
> 2140 Hooper Road
> Yuba City, CA 95993
> Phone: 866-426-8737
> Fax: 530-822-7988
> Email: audie@murfsmallard.com
>


On way..

Tom
Old Jan 03, 2005, 01:52 PM
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Tom,

I got it. Thank you so very much. Now I just need to find out if the maker is still in business or if any parts are still available, do you know off hand?


Sincerely,

Audie Murphy
MURF'S MALLARD
www.murfsmallard.com
2140 Hooper Road
Yuba City, CA 95993
Phone: 866-426-8737
Fax: 530-822-7988
Email: audie@murfsmallard.com
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Old Jan 03, 2005, 06:11 PM
Tom
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Re: PLEASE HELP! Richmond No. 1 horizontal milling machine???

murfs_mallard wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> I got it. Thank you so very much. Now I just need to find out if
> the maker is still in business or if any parts are still available, do
> you know off hand?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Audie Murphy
> MURF'S MALLARD
> www.murfsmallard.com
> 2140 Hooper Road
> Yuba City, CA 95993
> Phone: 866-426-8737
> Fax: 530-822-7988
> Email: audie@murfsmallard.com
>


Further to my mail to you, Richmond Machine Tool Co became
part of the George Cohen 600 Group in 1955. The Co appears to
have a chequered career and the name was resurrected again
in 2002 to market VMCs. If parts were available, which I doubt,
going on other 600 Group parts prices, a Ca lottery win would be
inadequate! :-)

Tom
Old Jan 05, 2005, 04:11 PM
mark
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Re: PLEASE HELP! Richmond No. 1 horizontal milling machine???


Charles Ping wrote:
> >
> >There was someone asking similar questions recently re: a Richmond

No1
> >on either rec.crafts.metalworking or the Chaski board I don't recall
> >which.
> >

>
> 'Twas Mark Jones
>
> http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//Fo...ML/009537.html
>
> Since he's over here you can't both have been after the same machine!
>
> Charles


I'm still waiting for the chap to send me some pics before I think
about going 93 miles to pick it up or even look at it .
I've still no idea what this machine looks like.
The guy who is selling it does not even know how it works.
In the mean time I missed this one here ...The Herbert no1 =A350
SOME OTHER BARGAINS HERE AS WELL
http://tool-making.co.uk/forsale.html
ALL THE BEST....MARK

 


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