New Pylon Racer- VOODOO

Vince123 · Dec 29, 2004, 02:26 PM

Very fast Pylon Racer - VOODOO
http://www.hoellein.com/websites_neu...doo/voodoo.htm

GregG · Dec 29, 2004, 05:21 PM

Vince123, Welcome to "The Ezone"!

BTW, thats a great looking plane. Thanks for the link.

KrisS · Dec 29, 2004, 05:30 PM

Looks like the little brother of the P5...
Who ist the maker of the VOODOO?

Imi01 · Dec 30, 2004, 04:11 AM

Hi,

the plane is made in Czech Republik.

manufacturer is unknow

I have one

i´ll post some pictures later.

Imi

plinse · Dec 30, 2004, 03:33 PM

looks like a really nice airframe - in this size it could be well suited for a quite hot BL-setup. Nice high aspect ratio. How strong is the wing? Are 7-8 cells GP1100 the upper limit or is there enough space for more?

Eike
My Homepage

mihah · Dec 30, 2004, 03:54 PM

Looks like a mid sized pylon plane between usual pylon 400 planes and "full size" F5D planes. I like the looks a lot!

I also wonder like Eike, how much space is there for cells? What is the airfoil profile?

dave_beardsley · Dec 30, 2004, 05:48 PM

Looks kinda like a stretched Stinger.....? Looks like more wing area / span - I bet it turns faster

any clue if these will be available in the USA soon?

Imi01 · Dec 31, 2004, 06:28 AM

Hi,

Construction: CFK, GFK
Wing Span: 840 mm
Lenght: 550 mm
Wing Area: 7.0dm
Wing Airfoil: 7,5%

Set Up:

Motor: Hacker B20 - 15L
Batteries: 8 GP1100
Servos: 3x SES 170 BB
Prop: 4,7 x 4,7

@plinse
you have space enough for 10 GP1100 (inline).

plinse · Dec 31, 2004, 07:30 AM

Very promising pictures! The fuselage looks quite big, it should offer enough opportunities for diffrent setups.

In the 3rd picture it looks very much like a small carbon spar. Looks like it is prepared for Pylon400BL

.

The frame for the servo, the linkages, ... look very much like the way that VIP and P5 are made.

Keep us updated. Looks very interesting.

@dbeardsl: It was mentioned by many other users from the US that Höllein is shipping to the US very quickly. With the $US shoping in Europe might not really be interesting to you at the moment but it was the other way around some month ago...

Eike
My Homepage

KrisS · Dec 31, 2004, 08:33 AM

Thanks for the pictures Imi!
This ship is now on my wishlist

mihah · Dec 31, 2004, 09:01 AM

It is on my wishlist too

@Imi01: What is the weight of the empty model with accessories (on the first photo)? And still, what is the airfoil profile if it is not a secret?

Thanks!

Miha

Dave Campbell · Dec 31, 2004, 09:17 AM

Very nice!

Dave Campbell · Dec 31, 2004, 09:18 AM

Very nice! I wonder what the airframe weight is.... It looks an awful lot loke it was made by the same folks that make the VIP?

GregG · Dec 31, 2004, 10:15 AM

I liked everything until I did a $$$ conversion. 159.00 EUR = 216.670 USD

That's almost enough to buy a full blown F5D airframe.

It looks to me like it was intended to be set up with two servos in the wing with the unequal length rods. I do like the ball links on the aileron torque rods. Were they already attached? The hole in the wing to allow the servos to sit on the upper wing surface is a great idea as well. Is that servo tray and linkage for the ele. included? Nice touch!

How deep is the fuse in the battery compartment just below were the ail. servos would sit? With a 33.07" W.S and scaling from the picture you've provided 1.65" fuse width at the front of the wing. Very interesting, if the 10-1100 will fit you could fit a pack of 6- 2200's sideways in there if the linkages clear! Wouldn't surprise me if One More Cell would fit.

Here we go........

Cell sizes

.90" (23mm) x 1.7" (43mm) 3300
.90" (23mm) x 1.3" (34mm) 2200
.69" (17mm) x 1.7" (43mm) 1950
.66" (17mm) x 1.1" (28mm) 1100
1.4" (36mm) x 4 " (100mm) x 0.8" (21mm) TP 2100

dave_beardsley · Jan 03, 2005, 01:00 AM

I got a crazy idea….. No offense meant to Hoellien here, just thinking.

Vince123,
I notice you’ve added to your original post with more detail photos and a CAD X-section drawing. Do you have any more info on this model? Another website possibly? It looks like you’ve got some insight -

Dose anyone know who actually makes this model? Not Hoellien (they just sell it... I think), but the manufacture. Maybe we can contact them directly and do a group buy. Its not that I wouldn’t want to support Hoellien, but I doubt they’d sell them to a USA group at (or close too) their cost.

I've done this many times before on other R/C products from outside the USA. It's a great way to get a select group cool gear without getting killed on cost.

I'd love to have 1 or 2, but with dollars strength vs the euro, its gonna be painful unless we can strike a deal someplace.

Most of the molded S-400 Pylon models available in the USA are around $160.00, I'd happily pay $160.00 - $180.00 for this model, but it looks like it would be closer to ~$260.00 by the time it was at my door.

Has anyone (from the USA) dealt with Hoellien directly before?

just looking for a creative way to get one of these. Its a great looking model!

Dec 29, 2004, 02:26 PM	#1
Vince123 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7	New Pylon Racer- VOODOO Very fast Pylon Racer - VOODOO http://www.hoellein.com/websites_neu...doo/voodoo.htm Attached Thumbnails 11.3 KB · Views: 3698 33.7 KB · Views: 4968 12.9 KB · Views: 3713 Last edited by Vince123; Dec 31, 2004 at 11:56 AM.

Dec 30, 2004, 04:11 AM	#4
Imi01 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maintal, Germany Posts: 3	Hi, the plane is made in Czech Republik. manufacturer is unknow I have one i´ll post some pictures later. Imi Last edited by Imi01; Dec 30, 2004 at 04:17 AM.

Dec 31, 2004, 06:28 AM	#8
Imi01 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maintal, Germany Posts: 3	Hi, Construction: CFK, GFK Wing Span: 840 mm Lenght: 550 mm Wing Area: 7.0dm Wing Airfoil: 7,5% Set Up: Motor: Hacker B20 - 15L Batteries: 8 GP1100 Servos: 3x SES 170 BB Prop: 4,7 x 4,7 @plinse you have space enough for 10 GP1100 (inline). Attached Thumbnails 90.3 KB · Views: 3968 51.6 KB · Views: 2779 54.2 KB · Views: 3405 59.3 KB · Views: 3632 Last edited by Imi01; Dec 31, 2004 at 06:42 AM.

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mihah Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Menges, Slovenia Posts: 259	Looks like a mid sized pylon plane between usual pylon 400 planes and "full size" F5D planes. I like the looks a lot! I also wonder like Eike, how much space is there for cells? What is the airfoil profile?

Dec 30, 2004, 05:48 PM	#7
dave_beardsley flying in the rain.... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Snohomish, WA Posts: 313	Looks kinda like a stretched Stinger.....? Looks like more wing area / span - I bet it turns faster any clue if these will be available in the USA soon?

Dec 31, 2004, 07:30 AM	#9
plinse Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baden Baden, Germany Posts: 1,059	Very promising pictures! The fuselage looks quite big, it should offer enough opportunities for diffrent setups. In the 3rd picture it looks very much like a small carbon spar. Looks like it is prepared for Pylon400BL . The frame for the servo, the linkages, ... look very much like the way that VIP and P5 are made. Keep us updated. Looks very interesting. @dbeardsl: It was mentioned by many other users from the US that Höllein is shipping to the US very quickly. With the $US shoping in Europe might not really be interesting to you at the moment but it was the other way around some month ago... Eike My Homepage

Dec 31, 2004, 08:33 AM	#10
KrisS Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Zurich, Switzerland Posts: 896	Thanks for the pictures Imi! This ship is now on my wishlist

Dec 31, 2004, 09:01 AM	#11
mihah Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Menges, Slovenia Posts: 259	It is on my wishlist too @Imi01: What is the weight of the empty model with accessories (on the first photo)? And still, what is the airfoil profile if it is not a secret? Thanks! Miha

Dec 31, 2004, 09:17 AM	#12
Dave Campbell Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Westland (Detroit), MI USA Posts: 1,086	Very nice!

Dec 31, 2004, 09:18 AM	#13
Dave Campbell Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Westland (Detroit), MI USA Posts: 1,086	Very nice! I wonder what the airframe weight is.... It looks an awful lot loke it was made by the same folks that make the VIP?

Dec 31, 2004, 10:15 AM	#14
GregG Speed Demon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Antioch,CA,USA Posts: 11,392	I liked everything until I did a $$$ conversion. 159.00 EUR = 216.670 USD That's almost enough to buy a full blown F5D airframe. It looks to me like it was intended to be set up with two servos in the wing with the unequal length rods. I do like the ball links on the aileron torque rods. Were they already attached? The hole in the wing to allow the servos to sit on the upper wing surface is a great idea as well. Is that servo tray and linkage for the ele. included? Nice touch! How deep is the fuse in the battery compartment just below were the ail. servos would sit? With a 33.07" W.S and scaling from the picture you've provided 1.65" fuse width at the front of the wing. Very interesting, if the 10-1100 will fit you could fit a pack of 6- 2200's sideways in there if the linkages clear! Wouldn't surprise me if One More Cell would fit. Here we go........ Cell sizes .90" (23mm) x 1.7" (43mm) 3300 .90" (23mm) x 1.3" (34mm) 2200 .69" (17mm) x 1.7" (43mm) 1950 .66" (17mm) x 1.1" (28mm) 1100 1.4" (36mm) x 4 " (100mm) x 0.8" (21mm) TP 2100

Jan 03, 2005, 01:00 AM	#15
dave_beardsley flying in the rain.... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Snohomish, WA Posts: 313	I got a crazy idea….. No offense meant to Hoellien here, just thinking. Vince123, I notice you’ve added to your original post with more detail photos and a CAD X-section drawing. Do you have any more info on this model? Another website possibly? It looks like you’ve got some insight - Dose anyone know who actually makes this model? Not Hoellien (they just sell it... I think), but the manufacture. Maybe we can contact them directly and do a group buy. Its not that I wouldn’t want to support Hoellien, but I doubt they’d sell them to a USA group at (or close too) their cost. I've done this many times before on other R/C products from outside the USA. It's a great way to get a select group cool gear without getting killed on cost. I'd love to have 1 or 2, but with dollars strength vs the euro, its gonna be painful unless we can strike a deal someplace. Most of the molded S-400 Pylon models available in the USA are around $160.00, I'd happily pay $160.00 - $180.00 for this model, but it looks like it would be closer to ~$260.00 by the time it was at my door. Has anyone (from the USA) dealt with Hoellien directly before? just looking for a creative way to get one of these. Its a great looking model!