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Old Dec 11, 2004, 10:37 PM
Team 30 Micro EDF
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AlH,

I'm not familiar with the plans you are speaking of, but the size and time period is right. Does it resemble a real airplane? If it does, then and go for it...
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Old Dec 11, 2004, 10:51 PM
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Officially started! I think the strips buckled in a couple of places. The good news is that I'm done for the evening these need to dry.
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Old Dec 11, 2004, 11:18 PM
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I have begun cutting out ribs. I hope to finish in a month or so. If I can enter the competition, that will be another reason to keep this build going. I have been building wing, tail and stick fuse types for the past year or so.
AlH
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Old Dec 11, 2004, 11:27 PM
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Tiberius,
The contact info for Olivier is in the vendors thread, from the Micro Threads Index. I have his J3 Cub kit too. They are fantastic.

Gordon
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Old Dec 12, 2004, 07:29 AM
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Sopwith Bee plan

Bob Chiang,
Al Backstrom's peanut plan of the Sopwith Bee is the freebie plan this month at www.windysock.net/plans.htm

cheers,
Dennis
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Old Dec 12, 2004, 08:27 AM
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Hi all,

Thank you for the suggestions to carry my "heavy" gear. (Just a few years ago, who would have thought a flight pack of less than an ounce would be considered heavy?). If I do any flying indoors, it will be in a large field house, so higher wing loading might be okay (except for the un-scale flying speed).

The Sopwith Bee is a cute one (and how convenient that the FAC folks posted the plan : ), and the Fikes and Lacey's were certainly popular with the peanut crowd because of their large wing area as you said. Would either airplane satisfy the Golden Age requirement?
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Old Dec 12, 2004, 09:24 AM
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Count me in. I am waiting on some bits and pieces (MPS V2 receiver) as I write this. I have been flipping through magazines and plans trying to decide what I want to build. So many wonderful choices from the "Golden Age"; biplanes, monoplanes, home built sport planes.

I was wondering about a cut of date as well.

2 months is a good choice. However, one of your requirements was for the model to have actually flown (with inflight photo). Not everyone has access to a suitable flying site for these micro fliers on a frequent and regular basis. Might I suggest February 28, this is a Monday, Feb 11 is a Friday. I would guess that most of us fly indoors mostly on weekends. I think extending the time frame slightly would provide more the oppourtunity to actually get their planes in the air and going to the end of Februrary is not such big stretch on the original intent of Feb 11.

cheers, the other, other Graham in Embrun near Ottawa Canada.






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Hard work often pays off over time. But, lazyniess always pays off now.

The Feb. 11 deadline sounds like it should be enough time.

My lamination templates are cut out...started enough for me

Gordon, That looks incredible. Where can you get those kits??
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Old Dec 12, 2004, 09:47 AM
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A heads up for antone looking for micro gear:

There are 2 complete RFFS systems for sale in the Electric classifieds as we speak. A great chance to grab an actuator system at a very nice price. I'm not associated with either seller, just a frequent lurker in that section.
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Old Dec 12, 2004, 10:46 AM
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Per requests from Planophore and for the benefit of others in the frosty parts of the world. The cut-off date has been moved back to the end of February to allow for a few more weekend inddor sessions to meet the flight requirement for prize award consideration...

Dennis,
THanks for knowing about and sharing the Windy Socks link.
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Old Dec 12, 2004, 11:42 AM
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Tim,

Hard work often pays off over time. But, lazyniess always pays off now.

Great quote, a keeper.

Dave
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Old Dec 12, 2004, 02:21 PM
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Tim,

Hard work often pays off over time. But, lazyniess always pays off now.

Great quote, a keeper.

Dave
It hangs above my desk @ work

Pulled the laminated outlines off the forms this AM. After some light sanding, I tossed 'em in the trash and broke out the balsa stripper. Nice light strips from a sheet of 5 lb. balsa should work much better. The rest of the kit sticks will make good wing spars.
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Old Dec 12, 2004, 10:14 PM
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Bristol M1 Gypsy Racer

It has a good start. I am going on a buisiness trip, and will be off the project for a couple of days. But I got a good start. Fuse sides are done. One wing lamination, and the rudder lamination are done. The stab is framed up. The main adhesive I am using is "Super Alphetic" Glue. Its realy light, and easy to work with. Kinda like elmers, but more sticky.

Walter
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Old Dec 13, 2004, 12:03 AM
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Ok, Ok Walter...
Maybe I'l go back to work on the 1941 Talorcaraft model, with
a built up fuselage..

Though that will have to wait 'till I finish the profile Stout 2-AT,
and the 1942 Earl Stall Wakefield model for NIRAC Climb and Glide,
(It's a built up fuse model)
and the NIRAC glider.. and...

But, yes, forever... Airplanes fly on wings. Not props.....

An old joke line,
Helicopters don't fly, they're so ugly that the earth repells them...
I kinda feel that way about 3D model airplanes.
While it might be fun, it's an un-natural act...

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Old Dec 13, 2004, 01:00 PM
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I find the term 3D a misnomer, all of my planes fly in 3D, dimensions that is

Now back on topic. I think, after spending the weekend fussing and pondering and thumbing through many plans and magazines, that I have decided what I am going to build. BAT monoplane. a one off conversion of a British Aerial Transport (flying bomb) that someone in the early 20's added a cockpit and controls for a person to fly. It kind of skirts the lower end of the "Golden Age" but an intriguing and interesting airplane none the less.

Another suggestion, perhaps we could get one of the moderators to put a sticky on this thread so long as it keeps growing and gathering more builders.

cheers, Graham in Embrun near Ottawa Canada.



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Ok, Ok Walter...

An old joke line,
Helicopters don't fly, they're so ugly that the earth repells them...
I kinda feel that way about 3D model airplanes.
While it might be fun, it's an un-natural act...

--del
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Old Dec 13, 2004, 02:58 PM
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The B.A.T. is an interesting subject. It has the nice wide chord to give you lots of area to work with. Here's the real McCoy:


SInce it was meant to be un-manned, it really does look like a model airplane.

SFA had a cook-up on this plane early this year. Unfortunately, the thread has been moved to archives section and is only accessible to members.

Here is a shot of Will Hayes' model:

And one of Ludo's model:

Lots of detailing possible, even on this simple flying bomb...
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