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Old Dec 03, 2004, 05:58 PM
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Very impressed!!! I need to get motivated and build me something. I've had the fanfold in my garage now for several months but have been hessitant to jump on board due to fear of making a mess. Would this be an easy first plane to try or should I look for something else?
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Old Dec 06, 2004, 05:32 PM
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Very impressed!!! I need to get motivated and build me something. I've had the fanfold in my garage now for several months but have been hessitant to jump on board due to fear of making a mess. Would this be an easy first plane to try or should I look for something else?

This is the indoor version and it is designed for 3mm depron.
I'm finishing off the prototype now. I'm expecting it will fly similarly to the bigger version (palns are free, see the link at the start of this thread).
The big version will 3D however it is also a stable flyer suitable for the intermediate pilot.

The bigger version was designed for 6mm Depron although I'm guessing it will be OK in Fan Fold. I don't know of anybody who has one finished yet.

Fan Fold is cheap, get started. If it doesn't work first time trash it, and try again. This is one of the benefits of using a material that is easy to work with and cheap.

Peter
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Old Dec 06, 2004, 05:35 PM
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Almost done,
I've been calling it the "Baby Baron"

Flight trials later this week.
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Old Dec 09, 2004, 10:26 AM
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pmjass, I must say this is one of the best looking fanfold scale models I have seen. I have downloaded your larger version and am going to give it a try. I do have to ask though. What type of adhesive do you use to glue the whole thing together? What did you use to color your depron? I am assuming craft paints. I can't wait for this smaller version to be proven out. Thanks.....Greg
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Old Dec 09, 2004, 05:53 PM
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Paint used is Tamiya model car paint (The type used for painting lexan car bodies). It is colour PS16 (I had it laying around). The tamiya paint works very well as it dries very fast, consequently it doesn't get enough time to seriously attack the foam.
I have also successfully used regular spray can enamel paint.

The glue I have been using mostly is Selleys Aquadhere Durabond. It is a polyurethane glue. It foams and expands in the joints. Once dry it is easy to cut or sand. Unfortunately it takes about 4 hours to set.
It is a very strong glue that sticks to almost anything.
There are handling warnings, once on the fingers it sets black and is very difficult to remove with any method other than amputation.

Gloves are a good idea, I hate wearing gloves so I try to be very careful and
neat with it.

Another glue I use is 5 minute epoxy. (for when I'm in a hurry).

Finally I use 3M Super77 for sticking on the decals. It is a fantastic contact
type glue. Very sticky.

I ran into problems with the aileron hinges, I used some plastic flex hinges that proved to be too stiff. I then had to cut the ailerons off and maker new ones and re-hinge with tape.

The tape I use for hinges is 3M Blenderm (available from Medical supliers).
It sticks to almost anything quite well and it is very flexible.

Regards,

Peter.
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Old Dec 09, 2004, 06:01 PM
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IT FLIES,

very well in fact.

While not the best 3D ship I've ever flown (it will hover) it is a very good indoor aerobatic sports model, which is exactly what I was hoping for.

Flight time was 12 minutes.
Flew outside, no wind.
Will fly indoor at our next meet this Saturday.


Motor: Aircraft World DIY CD-Rom 18 turn Double Star Wind.
Battery: Polyquest 2S 850
Speed Controller: MGM ComPro 18A (too big, but all I had spare)
Receiver: JR500 (An old one with the case removed)
Servos: 2 x CS80BB and 1 x GWS Pico F/BB
Prop: APC 8 x 3.8"
AUW: 226 gms (7 7/8 oz.).


Now if I can find somebody with a digital video camera I'll shoot some video.

Regards,

Peter
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Old Dec 10, 2004, 04:26 AM
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Some flying pics (taken just on dusk at the local cricket field).
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Old Dec 16, 2004, 07:54 PM
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Don't you hate it when your hard drive dies. Straight after that you realise how much important stuff you didn't back up.

I was corresponding with Ken (not sure on correct spelling of last name) and I've lost his email address.

Ken if you get this please send me another email.
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Old Dec 16, 2004, 07:56 PM
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Doh,
forgot to add that the plans for the indoor DR1 will be finished this weekend. I'm still flying the model indoor and outdoor and I am very happy with it. Personally I like the blue/white colouring better than the all red.

Peter
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Old Dec 16, 2004, 08:55 PM
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Peter,

Thats pretty cool!! Release the plans and I will add it to the stack of stuff I will never get around to building!! I have a fanfold one started with lite stick wings I havent touched for months that I need to finish some day.....

Later,
David
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Old Dec 16, 2004, 08:57 PM
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Nice job!!!!!!

Jim
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Old Dec 22, 2004, 04:41 PM
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I would love to get a copy!! PPAL to that account. What format are the plans in (pdf, dxf, ect??)
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Old Jan 22, 2005, 07:41 AM
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I never did get around to posting the plans for the Baby Baron.

I was going to make them $5 USD however I've decided to make them free.

They can be downloaded from:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/pmjass/S6H9G2/BabyBaron.zip

The zip file contains both Letter and A4 PDF versions.

Please post in the thread if you get around to building one.

Regards,

Peter
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Old Jan 22, 2005, 07:59 AM
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File problems!

It says the file archive is Bad!
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Old Jan 22, 2005, 08:07 AM
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Working on it.

I've received quite a few queries from people who saw the pics on your
site. http://www.flatfoamflyers.com .

Thanks,

Peter
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