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Old Oct 30, 2006, 08:07 PM
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Im guess its time I break down and build one of the baby barons!

I want to mount a camera on it like my tigermoth check out the video.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oid=1309235834

video camera information for anyone interested is on my site now!

www.sdparkflyers.com/camera.html
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Old Oct 31, 2006, 04:17 AM
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What a fantastic video.

I'd love to see a video of Baby Baron indoor aerobatics with a camera on board.

Peter
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Old Oct 31, 2006, 10:52 AM
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Roger,

Thanks for the information regarding the lipos. I have now fitted a Tornado 3S 1600 mAh batt (103g) AUW is now up to 429g / 15.16oz - and I haven't even flown it yet - should give me reasonable duration !?

GPW - is there not a joke along the lines of: "that Fokker was a Messerschmit !!!" ?

Take care,

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Old Nov 03, 2006, 07:06 AM
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Big Baron - Maiden

Well, I maidened the BIG BARON today - absolutely superb !!!!!!!! (I've always wanted to say this ......Flew straight off the drawing board - only used low rates for a full aerobatic performance and I didn't even have to touch the trims !!!!!) ROG & it tracked straight as a die !

Wind about 10 knots & a bit gusty which didn't faze it at all.

For the first flight I moved the C of G forward to 25% (1.95" / 49.5mm - which equals about 3/4" back from the LE of the middle wing.)

Specs:
WS 883mm / 34 3/4"
AUW: 15.1 oz
Motor: STRONG RC 22.7mm double stator, wound 13T x 24AWG
Prop: GWS 9x5 HD
Batt: Tornado 3S 1600 mAh lipoly
ESC: CC10
Servos: 3x Wayfarer W-068PB (plastic gears +1 BB) 6.8g / 0.24 oz each.
Pull-pull on rudder & elevator using Berkley 15lb fishing line (non-stretch)

Throws: (all low rates)
Ailerons: 1/4" each way
Rudder: 5/8" each way
Elev: 3/4" each way

Flew for about 14 mins (still plenty of battery left - just didn't want to push my luck!) - more than enough power, could go vertical at any time - rolls, inside & outside loops, immelmans, stall turns, spins (all on low rates !) and to cap it all bought her in for an EXTREMELY SLOW perfect 3 point landing (makes a nice change LOL) with a roll out of about 6 inches which drew applause from a bunch of onlookers !

Thanks to my mate Anton Smith for the 'maiden' moral support (still hate them !) and a huge thank you to Peter for the design and drawing of this superb machine.

Have posted this in Foamy (Scratchbuilt) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=591785 as well because Peter's plans are in JAM's sticky - DIY FREE PLANS http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=554951

Nigel (a happy lad !)
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Old Nov 03, 2006, 05:55 PM
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Most excellent Nigel. I was a bit worried the quality of the flying wouldn't be up to the quality of your builds.

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Old Nov 04, 2006, 01:35 AM
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Peter,

I think you are guilty of a teensy weensy bit of understatement ! You said
"the outdoor version flies very well also and looks great in the air even if I say so myself".

I have to say you are wrong - it doesn't just fly very well - it flies SUPERBLY !

As you can see from the throws etc, I am flying it as a tame sports model - I can only imagine what it is capable of if you increase the throws to 3D proportions with the C of G moved back - it would be unbelievable !!! (and well beyond my flying skills !) The point is that the model that you designed & drew up can satisfy just about any level or type of flying - and well at all levels !

Thanks again for a superb aeroplane.

I am now embarking on your SE5a but may add a little undercamber to the wings and a full fuz for looks - with the idea of using it more as a slowflyer than a Sports or 3D machine (and a companion to the 'Big Fokker') - do you have any thoughts or ideas ?

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Old Nov 06, 2006, 10:30 PM
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Nigel,
thanks for the compliments. In my mind the SE5A has the best flying characteristics of all of them. I have been working on a construction method that makes full fuz's easy although I haven't worked around to redoing the SE5A yet.
It flies quite slowly as it has a low wing loading and its a boxy fuselage so full fuz should be relatively easy. I'm not sure that you would gain anything by adding some camber however I would be very interested to hear the results.

Peter
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Old Nov 09, 2006, 05:43 AM
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And I was just thinking how much I like your T-profile construction ...Yep!!! Mine's STILL flying ... SE5A???? Did I miss something ????. Sorry , been hangin out with the DIY crowd...
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Old Nov 09, 2006, 01:59 PM
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I have had an outdoor version of the SE5A done for a while now (Profile).
I am planning on making it a full fuz.
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Old Nov 09, 2006, 02:47 PM
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If either of them fly as well as the 'Baby Baron' or the 'Big Baron' - they will both be superb !

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Old Apr 08, 2007, 10:07 PM
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I know the Baby Baron was kitted. Is there any way to purchase a kit version of the Big Baron?
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Old Apr 11, 2007, 10:06 AM
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Plans in SVG format

Would it be possible to get the plans in SVG (Scaleable vector graphics) format? I would like to do 2 things, 1, be able to export to a full size plan PDF for printing at kinkos and 2, play with the plans to learn your secrets to great designs. I'm just starting out at this hobby and I'd like to learn from something good.
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 05:24 AM
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I know the Baby Baron was kitted. Is there any way to purchase a kit version of the Big Baron?

Unfortunately no. Somebody who has a set of templates may be able to produce a short kit for you.

Regards,

Peter.
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 05:26 AM
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Would it be possible to get the plans in SVG (Scaleable vector graphics) format? I would like to do 2 things, 1, be able to export to a full size plan PDF for printing at kinkos and 2, play with the plans to learn your secrets to great designs. I'm just starting out at this hobby and I'd like to learn from something good.

My AutoCAD only allow a save as .dxf or .dwg. Are either of these formats useful?



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Old Apr 12, 2007, 06:48 AM
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Peter, thanks, I had assumed there weren't any, but it was worth asking.
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