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Old Feb 16, 2013, 02:50 PM
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Well Mr Mclarkson, I m going to pay you the ultimate compliment by shamelessly copying your idea! Well done sir!!
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 02:54 PM
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Thanks. The axles are short pieces of brass tubing slipped over both wires and soldered in place.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 03:37 PM
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I got up today and it looked beautiful. The winds were blowing 9MPH which is a bit brisk but I was determined to maiden this plane anyway.

Unfortunately, in the five minutes it took me to get to the field, the wind had increased to 19 MPH! I was too stubborn to give up that easily and determined to get her in the air today.

ProTip: When the plane is blowing backwards down the runway under power, it's probably too windy to fly.

GWS Tiger Moth 400 - Way Too Windy - Maiden Flight (0 min 0 sec)


Here she is, post-maiden. Still missing wing wires and other scale details but 95% done and totally ready to fly.


My first moth came out decidedly nose-heavy so I tried to keep everything as far back as possible. This one, of course, came out tail heavy and currently has 21 grams of lead in the nose.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 05:49 PM
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You have more guts than I do, I would have never maidened her in that much wind - glad you got away with it

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Old Feb 17, 2013, 07:53 PM
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Guts? Or just lack of brains? I'm glad too!
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 07:55 PM
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Excellent idea on the LG! going with something close, but not exactly like yours! your idea gave me mine. will post a pic when it's done. Question, there is some little square indentions in the nose of fuse that line up with screw holes on cowl, is there a part on parts tree that go's there? or do you glue some little square pieces of bass wood or something?
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 08:04 PM
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There are, in fact, little tiny pieces of white plastic that go in there. I lose mine every time, tear the box apart, look everywhere, give up in despair and then finally find them.

Here's a photo, FWIW
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 08:38 PM
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LOL - If I drop one more screw...............

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 05:54 PM
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I know what you mean. The worst part is I'm using these teeny, tiny little screw eyes on the interplane struts. And I have exactly 8 of them. And I can't find them locally. So if I drop and lose one, I'm out $8.00 (incl shipping) and a 2-week wait!

I got my new one up in the air today and lordy is she tail-heavy. Handling and stability were just awful. So I'm gonna pop the bottom wing off and move the innards around a bit. And hope against hope that I don't loose one of those teeny, tiny screw eyes!

You can see in the photos that the paint is shiiiiiny.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 03:38 PM
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With the maiden flights showing a tail-heavy bird, I moved the ESC up to the front of the firewall. The ESC and the wires are held in place with zip ties run through slots cut in the foam.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 03:43 PM
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Not sure if this is worth sharing (or the right place) but...

I've replaced the stock interplane strut screws on my Tiger Moths with tiny little brass-plated screw eyes. This gives me a place to anchor my flying wires.





Screwing the screw eyes in and out is a major PITA. I've been doing it a half turn at a time with hemostats. I finally got tired of that and built this little tool from piano wire and shrink wrap.



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Old Feb 20, 2013, 07:01 PM
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Awesome scale touch to the TM 400! I might have to steal that idea! I'm moving along pretty well on my build, I bought the plain white unpainted version and applying coats of minwax polycrylic and wet sanding between coats before I paint. haven't really decided on a scheme yet? probably go with yellow with the black nose... and the decals. going brushless tho, 400 size, with a 3s 1300mah pack. anyone know how much alieron throw for a good roll rate?
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 07:33 PM
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I did the same thing for wing wires - works great

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Old Feb 20, 2013, 07:51 PM
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VTOL Tiger Moth! Yeah! I want one. Actually, there are two in my LHS just waiting to be bought. One is a built airframe only, the other in the box.

Still in training with Frankenplane.

Great build and videos!
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 08:06 PM
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I'm pretty sure all my work with the surface and paint is what's given me such a tail-heavy plane, so watch out for that. (My first TM came out nose-heavy, with a smaller motor.)

I'm not really sure about the ailerons. Generally, I set everything up to maximum mechanical throw and then regret it later.

p.s. Anyone wanting all the excruciating details about my latest build will find them here.
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