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Applehoney · Jan 21, 2005, 02:03 PM

KeilKraft 'Senator' built for the Postal event.

zl3vml · Jan 21, 2005, 02:10 PM

Nice Jim.
What's the weight? Do you and Kev both carve your own props?
I have been thinking of building one for some time now.
Have plans for "Lulu" sitting on the board as well just waiting for some spare time....
Mark

PS - do you have DT in it?

gossie · Jan 21, 2005, 07:01 PM

Looks great, and light. They are THE most amazing flyers.
So what's it weigh????????? l sent you some time ago pics of my 2 and weights am interested to compare. lf you still have the pics you are welcome to put them on here if you wish. Sending me nuts can't get pic's on, may have to call up a 'puter guru.

Applehoney · Jan 21, 2005, 07:55 PM

>What's the weight? Do you and Kev both carve your own props?

57grammes inclusive of tracker Tx. Senators usually require some nose ballast but I think I've evaded that, this time. Carved props - yes. DT - yes; tipping wing.
Build the 'Lulu' ....

>l sent you some time ago pics of my 2 and weights

Howard, no longer have them - but if you send 'em again I can put them up for you.

zl3vml · Jan 21, 2005, 08:05 PM

Hmm, very good - thanks.
Can you indulge some info on the tracker Tx?

Mark

Applehoney · Jan 22, 2005, 12:39 AM

>some info on the tracker Tx?

Not much to give - it's nothing as advanced or efficient as a Walston which will track a model into the far distance. . I purchased a couple of small 'bugs' from the effects of a deceased modeller and use them in conjunction with a cheap Radio Shack scanner and a pair of good compass-equipped binoculars. The latter are essential to establish and follow a bearing to where the model was seen to touch down and the bug starts to make its presence known from about 100 yards and so serves to help home in to it when it's in deep bush, corn, deep grass etc. Though not 'state of the art' it has helped me retrieve safely on many occasions but it doesn't serve much purpose if the model goes OOS high in the air - that's where a Walston would come into its own.
I now have a GPS for further assistance .. if I can only work out how to use the damn thing!

gossie · Jan 22, 2005, 01:05 AM

GPS----very handy. One of the guys in our club has a small hand held unit that was not a lot of money and a year or so ago when l lost the red and black Senator in dense bush land, he stood where l launched and set it up to a tree l knew the model flew over about a kilometre down wind. We walked though all sorts of rubbish for over an hour keeping the line the unit told us to. l almost stepped on the model, we were right on line and could never have found it otherwise.

John O'Sullivan · Jan 22, 2005, 08:58 AM

Never go flying without a compass and a topo map (preferably 1:10,000 scale). read the wind direction as precisely as you can, plot the wind direction on the map and follow. (assuming navigable terraine).

As one who does a lot of bush work in mineral exploration, my standby for over 40 years has been the basic Silva Ranger (or Suunto equivalent) with declination adjustment. Don't get too carried away with fancy expensive compasses which were designed for office people and only seem to work in offices.
I've had models found within 100 metres of the plotted line after a 12 km flight.
GPS can be good for tracking where you have searched, especially if you have an active map display.
John O'Sullivan ( leaving in a few days, the balmy current -33 deg Nova Scotia temps for a month or more in the real cool of Northern Manitoba on a drilling job.)

Applehoney · Jan 22, 2005, 01:59 PM

On behalf of 'Gossie' .. here's his pic of his two 'Senator's, now awaiting their flights in the Senator Postal (right, Howard?

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Applehoney · Jan 22, 2005, 02:07 PM

... and while we have Howard in mind, his "Ladybird" and "Ladybird Special" biplanes. "Ladybird" was published in Aero Modeller in the late '540s - a boxy but attractive rubber-powered design which does fly very well. (I once built a 22" scaled version for a specific event and it was a cute little model to fly).

"Ladybird Special" - by the same designer, H.J.Pridmore - followed a couple of years later; a very elegant biplane with a shapely stringered fuselage and curvaceous wings, designed for the E.D. Bee 1cc diesel. Howard uses a Mills 1.3 in his version

Applehoney · Jan 22, 2005, 02:10 PM

... and a "Madcap" designed by Vic Smeed. A somewhat portly design which flys just as well as all the other models that Vic is famed for ....

Treetop · Jan 22, 2005, 02:47 PM

Very very nice. Love the bipes.

gossie · Jan 22, 2005, 07:13 PM

Thanks Jim, your a champion. Must get pics problem sorted out at this end, then l can boar you all to death with heaps of 'em. LOL. Re. Senator times, our first flying day for '05 is on the 13/2 so praying for a good day------it's summer, hot, and can be stormy here, so who knows. ln actual fact the winter in Queensland is by far the best---22c---25c, calm conditions, best time for free flighting and out in the ocean on our ski's. We had friends from Charlotte North Carolina visit us last July, they could not believe how good it was. Sorry guys, will probably get kicked of the site now.

Tony Oliver · Jan 23, 2005, 11:07 AM

You call that 'winter'? We're lucky if it gets there in summer. We're breaking icicles from the wingtips at the moment.

gossie · Jan 27, 2005, 05:06 AM

Applehoney's SENATOR weighs 57 grams and saw 'somewhere else' a nice bumble bee looking one was 54 or was it 55 grams, at least l'm in the ballpark, the red and black one is 58 grams by the scales today and it's been flown and even lost at one stage.
The other one is over 70 grams, has a 12inch prop. and l reckon flys as well as the light one. Maybe not in dead conditions though. Seldom 'dead' here.

Jan 21, 2005, 02:03 PM	#46
Applehoney Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ajax, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,645	KeilKraft 'Senator' built for the Postal event. Attached Thumbnails 41.3 KB · Views: 1161

Jan 21, 2005, 02:10 PM	#47
zl3vml Sir Jasper Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Christchurch - New Zealand Posts: 549	Nice Jim. What's the weight? Do you and Kev both carve your own props? I have been thinking of building one for some time now. Have plans for "Lulu" sitting on the board as well just waiting for some spare time.... Mark PS - do you have DT in it? Last edited by zl3vml; Jan 21, 2005 at 02:13 PM. Reason: DT question

Jan 22, 2005, 01:59 PM	#54
Applehoney Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ajax, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,645	On behalf of 'Gossie' .. here's his pic of his two 'Senator's, now awaiting their flights in the Senator Postal (right, Howard? ) Attached Thumbnails 54.2 KB · Views: 1093

Jan 22, 2005, 02:07 PM	#55
Applehoney Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ajax, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,645	... and while we have Howard in mind, his "Ladybird" and "Ladybird Special" biplanes. "Ladybird" was published in Aero Modeller in the late '540s - a boxy but attractive rubber-powered design which does fly very well. (I once built a 22" scaled version for a specific event and it was a cute little model to fly). "Ladybird Special" - by the same designer, H.J.Pridmore - followed a couple of years later; a very elegant biplane with a shapely stringered fuselage and curvaceous wings, designed for the E.D. Bee 1cc diesel. Howard uses a Mills 1.3 in his version Attached Thumbnails 63.4 KB · Views: 1060

Jan 22, 2005, 02:10 PM	#56
Applehoney Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ajax, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,645	... and a "Madcap" designed by Vic Smeed. A somewhat portly design which flys just as well as all the other models that Vic is famed for .... Attached Thumbnails 46.5 KB · Views: 1040

Jan 21, 2005, 07:01 PM	#48
gossie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast Australia. Posts: 1,479	Looks great, and light. They are THE most amazing flyers. So what's it weigh????????? l sent you some time ago pics of my 2 and weights am interested to compare. lf you still have the pics you are welcome to put them on here if you wish. Sending me nuts can't get pic's on, may have to call up a 'puter guru.

Jan 21, 2005, 07:55 PM	#49
Applehoney Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ajax, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,645	>What's the weight? Do you and Kev both carve your own props? 57grammes inclusive of tracker Tx. Senators usually require some nose ballast but I think I've evaded that, this time. Carved props - yes. DT - yes; tipping wing. Build the 'Lulu' .... >l sent you some time ago pics of my 2 and weights Howard, no longer have them - but if you send 'em again I can put them up for you.

Jan 21, 2005, 08:05 PM	#50
zl3vml Sir Jasper Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Christchurch - New Zealand Posts: 549	Hmm, very good - thanks. Can you indulge some info on the tracker Tx? Mark

Jan 22, 2005, 12:39 AM	#51
Applehoney Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ajax, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,645	>some info on the tracker Tx? Not much to give - it's nothing as advanced or efficient as a Walston which will track a model into the far distance. . I purchased a couple of small 'bugs' from the effects of a deceased modeller and use them in conjunction with a cheap Radio Shack scanner and a pair of good compass-equipped binoculars. The latter are essential to establish and follow a bearing to where the model was seen to touch down and the bug starts to make its presence known from about 100 yards and so serves to help home in to it when it's in deep bush, corn, deep grass etc. Though not 'state of the art' it has helped me retrieve safely on many occasions but it doesn't serve much purpose if the model goes OOS high in the air - that's where a Walston would come into its own. I now have a GPS for further assistance .. if I can only work out how to use the damn thing!

Jan 22, 2005, 01:05 AM	#52
gossie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast Australia. Posts: 1,479	GPS----very handy. One of the guys in our club has a small hand held unit that was not a lot of money and a year or so ago when l lost the red and black Senator in dense bush land, he stood where l launched and set it up to a tree l knew the model flew over about a kilometre down wind. We walked though all sorts of rubbish for over an hour keeping the line the unit told us to. l almost stepped on the model, we were right on line and could never have found it otherwise.

Jan 22, 2005, 08:58 AM	#53
John O'Sullivan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nova Scotia Canada Posts: 834	Never go flying without a compass and a topo map (preferably 1:10,000 scale). read the wind direction as precisely as you can, plot the wind direction on the map and follow. (assuming navigable terraine). As one who does a lot of bush work in mineral exploration, my standby for over 40 years has been the basic Silva Ranger (or Suunto equivalent) with declination adjustment. Don't get too carried away with fancy expensive compasses which were designed for office people and only seem to work in offices. I've had models found within 100 metres of the plotted line after a 12 km flight. GPS can be good for tracking where you have searched, especially if you have an active map display. John O'Sullivan ( leaving in a few days, the balmy current -33 deg Nova Scotia temps for a month or more in the real cool of Northern Manitoba on a drilling job.)

Jan 22, 2005, 02:47 PM	#57
Treetop Rationing rational responses Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Decatur, Georgia, United States Posts: 2,983	Very very nice. Love the bipes.

Jan 22, 2005, 07:13 PM	#58
gossie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast Australia. Posts: 1,479	Thanks Jim, your a champion. Must get pics problem sorted out at this end, then l can boar you all to death with heaps of 'em. LOL. Re. Senator times, our first flying day for '05 is on the 13/2 so praying for a good day------it's summer, hot, and can be stormy here, so who knows. ln actual fact the winter in Queensland is by far the best---22c---25c, calm conditions, best time for free flighting and out in the ocean on our ski's. We had friends from Charlotte North Carolina visit us last July, they could not believe how good it was. Sorry guys, will probably get kicked of the site now.

Jan 23, 2005, 11:07 AM	#59
Tony Oliver Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North-East England Posts: 3,273	You call that 'winter'? We're lucky if it gets there in summer. We're breaking icicles from the wingtips at the moment.

Jan 27, 2005, 05:06 AM	#60
gossie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast Australia. Posts: 1,479	Applehoney's SENATOR weighs 57 grams and saw 'somewhere else' a nice bumble bee looking one was 54 or was it 55 grams, at least l'm in the ballpark, the red and black one is 58 grams by the scales today and it's been flown and even lost at one stage. The other one is over 70 grams, has a 12inch prop. and l reckon flys as well as the light one. Maybe not in dead conditions though. Seldom 'dead' here.

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