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Old Apr 22, 2005, 06:30 AM
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hey everybody
how much do those clear planes that look like they weigh about a paper clip
actually weigh and how much does it cost to build one of those
(one like the one you have jwfinn)
Ronmeister,

Paperclip? Those weigh, like, a ton! Seriously, though, paperclips average about 1000-1500 mg, which the ROG shown in my last post weighs about 300 mg without rubber motor on board (that brings it up to around 600 mg). These planes cost next to nothing to build. I use tissue paper prop blades, but you can also use built-up blades or really thin sheet balsa (go to www.f1d.biz). The biggest issue is the covering. If you have the patience, microfilm is still the lightest option. More practical, however, are things like ultrafilm/super ultrafilm from Ray Harlan or the ultimate, .5 micron OS film. You can find links to both at www.indoorduration.com. Be warned that though these planes are very simple looking, they are far from easy to build. The thin wood breaks so easily, and manipulating the covering to get it on the flying surfaces is a real pain. The Indoor Duration site has two articles on building EZB's (the Hobby Shopper and Akron Lite/Micro-B) that are about the best reference around.

I hope I haven't scared you off yet. Indoor is worth every bit of frustration you could possibly go though to get it. Watching a plane float along so slowly is indescribably beautiful...

Good flying,
Joshua Finn
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Old Apr 22, 2005, 05:54 PM
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jeez!!
thats crazy a plane lighter than a paperclip
how does it feel with one in your hand?
just wondering...
if you throw one how long will it stay in the air
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Old Apr 22, 2005, 11:55 PM
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Not very long. Throwing tends to be highly destructive to such a thing. Now dropping it from tip-toes... That's given about 16 sec if I take the prop off.
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Old Apr 23, 2005, 11:07 AM
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that is so cool i am about to order some parts to make one
so you say it takes a lot of patience to make huh?
i am one of the most "unpatient" dudes around
are there any rtf's or anything like that around that you can buy for cheap
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Old Apr 23, 2005, 05:05 PM
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Ikara sells a couple of indoor RTF's, but they're bricks compared to an AROG or EZB.
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Old Apr 23, 2005, 06:16 PM
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Ikara sells a couple of indoor RTF's, but they're bricks compared to an AROG or EZB.
what price do they usually run
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Old Apr 23, 2005, 06:21 PM
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possibly a link to the place also
please
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Old Apr 23, 2005, 07:21 PM
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Oops, sorry 'bout that. Here are several places:

http://www.faimodelsupply.com/fai-ikara.htm
www.faimodelsupply.com
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Old Apr 23, 2005, 08:16 PM
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SIG Tiger.

SIG Tiger is well on the way. Slightly modified--sheet fin & stab. Bamboo U/C
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Old Apr 23, 2005, 08:21 PM
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Keil Kraft ACHILLES.

Keil Kraft ACHILLES. For it's size, what a sensational flyer.
Has a D/T on it----and needs it on just about every flight.
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Old Apr 23, 2005, 09:29 PM
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Howard, all these airplanes you keep showing us - I expect scores in the W/Wide Postal for/from all of 'em!
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Old Apr 23, 2005, 10:39 PM
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Oops, sorry 'bout that. Here are several places:

http://www.faimodelsupply.com/fai-ikara.htm
www.faimodelsupply.com
i kept searching throught the site but i couldn't find any plane that looked like yours (the clear one)
do you really just have to build one
i am a man of no patience so building one wouldnt really work for me
(unpatient then gets angry because his contraption doesnt work)
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Old Apr 23, 2005, 11:01 PM
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Nice planes and pics Gossie! tt
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Old Apr 24, 2005, 07:19 AM
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Ron,

Like I said previously, the Ikara stuff is considerable heavier. Lots of fun, but still not quite the same. It's impractical to sell RTF EZB's, AROG's, and ministicks. They're just too fragile. Why not just give it a try? Start with something heavier and work your way down. It's taken me a long time to get models to the weight these are, but it's well worth any amount of frustration involved.

Now, that said, Indoor Model Supply (www.indoormodelsupply.com) sells kits for Pennyplane, EZB, ministick, and parlormites. They are pretty much directed to beginners (except for the ministicks) and fly really well. Their EZB somewhat resembles this critter (no, the motorstick really isn't crooked):
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Old Apr 24, 2005, 10:15 AM
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oh gotcha thanks a lot

ps i have an obsession with those clear planes (they look so cool!!!) are any of those planes on the link clear?
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