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Old Oct 29, 2004, 10:41 AM
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Billing boats Dragon (Dragen)

Hello, I am new to sailing but not new to R/C. I have been looking around for sailboats and pretty much all of them have been made of ABS and all look the same. I am really looking for a wooden hulled sailboat that looks so good that it could be put on display when not in the water. I came accross the Billing boats Dragon and it seems perfect, except for one thing. The Dragon is supposed to be a display model only, but i have heard that it can be converted to R/C. I was wondering, what type of modifications would be needed to acheive this? One thing that i noticed was that the keel was rather short and doesnt seem to have any ballast. Would this make the boat unstable? I would apprecieate any info that could be provided. Thanks!

Patrick
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Old Oct 29, 2004, 08:37 PM
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Had this kit quite a while ago(I built it probably 20 yrs ago from a 30? yr old kit, so take this info with quite a few grains of salt). The kit came with a solid lead keel. As I remember mine sat a little below the designed waterline with the rc set in it and would dip the rail easily but wouldn't heel over much more. I don't recall exactly how I set up the RC. I think I just had the main on a long arm servo in front of the mast. Also I fiberglassed and painted the hull as I did a poor job on the planking. It couldn't have been too hard as it was my first sailboat and I was fairly young and dumb. It's a beautiful boat and was fun to sail.
By the way, welcome to the forum, I'm new myself.
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Old Oct 30, 2004, 01:51 AM
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Thank you very much Chris. I am looking forward to tackling this project this winter, it will be a nice break from building airplanes all the time!
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Old Oct 30, 2004, 06:40 PM
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Good luck and let us know how it turns out. I would like do do that one again sometime.
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Old Mar 18, 2005, 02:30 AM
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Dragon

Hi Shaver,
How did the conversion go? I have just started my Dragon and I want to make it RC. Did you glass your hull?
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Don
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Old Mar 18, 2005, 01:19 PM
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Hi Shaver,

As stated above the Dragen was designed as a display model, making it RC requires a lightweight hull, or a scaled up one, to get the extra bouyancy for the RC components.

@Don: If you haven't started planking yet, take out the Dremel and reduce the amount of wood in the frame by at least 50% (more is even better), the hull will be stable enough if you add a thin (outside) layer of glasscloth and epoxy resin.
You'll need to build as light as possible, as it's a relative small boat.

Regards, Jan.
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Old Mar 21, 2005, 01:43 AM
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Thanks for the advice; I will use most of it. I am not looking for speed, I have 3 other sailboats. I have a Pro Boat Sunrise 24 The Dragon is bigger. I think it looks to good to just be setting on a shelf.
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Old Mar 26, 2005, 12:43 AM
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Started the planking, slow work to get it right.
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Old Apr 01, 2005, 12:11 PM
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More planking.
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Old Apr 01, 2005, 06:25 PM
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Wow guys, they look great.
I'm sad to say that i never got around to build the boat. I have been to busy with work and my airplane models. I still want to build this boat in the future though, especially after seeing your boats! Keep up the good work....and keep posting pictures.

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Old Apr 06, 2005, 02:22 AM
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Planking is done.
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Old Apr 06, 2005, 12:11 PM
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MPO11, looks great man!
Is there any weight to the keel? (lead) How stable is this boat going to be with such a shallow keel?

Pat
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Old Apr 06, 2005, 11:36 PM
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Thanks Pat,
There is a brass keel that attaches to the wood keel; I will make it as heavy as needed to get the water line right. Im not looking for speed I have other boats for speed.
I think it looks to good to be left sitting on a shelf.

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Old May 26, 2005, 05:42 PM
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New skipper Blue, checking out the mast.
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Old May 30, 2005, 09:28 AM
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Looking Good Don, any words on your progress?

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