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Old Oct 23, 2004, 02:07 PM
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Heinkel HeS 011A german jet engine question

This was used in one variant of the HE162 the question in my mind is where can I find or what are the specs for this jet engine? IE intake length etc. The Jumo 004b was easier than this one!

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Old Oct 23, 2004, 07:06 PM
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HeS 011A
Static Thrust 2860 lb (1297kg)
axial flow type with annular combustion chambers

That's all I could find in my books. Lotsa pictures but little in the way of hard numbers
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Old Oct 23, 2004, 10:23 PM
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HeS 011A
Static Thrust 2860 lb (1297kg)
axial flow type with annular combustion chambers

That's all I could find in my books. Lotsa pictures but little in the way of hard numbers
Yes that's all I'm finding as well. I found this page that gave all the dimensions for german jet engines in WW2 but I can't seem to find it again(sigh).
I know the fan size for the Jumo 004b was 76cm but that doesn't solve this other problem hmmm oh well it has to be somewhere out there. Somewhere.
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Old Oct 23, 2004, 11:37 PM
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Although this might sounds like "Conspiracy-Guy", I imagine that the real nuts and bolts data on these engines would have become classified information after Soviet and American forces captured the factories. Not suprising considering it high technology at the dawn of the Cold War.
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Old Oct 24, 2004, 03:32 AM
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There is lots of information. You must be looking in the wrong place.The book German jet engine and gas turbine development 1930-1945 has 14 pages on the way it developed , with cross sections and photos. Specs of the 109-011 a-0 are

Thrust 2,866.5 lbs static
2294 lb at 559 mph sea level
1002.5 lbs 559 mph at 32,800 ft

max rpm 11,000
idle rpm 6,000

specific fuel consumption 1.31
comp efficiency 80%
weight 2,095 lbs
specific weight 0.73
height 3ft 61/2 ins
width 2 ft 10 ins
length 11 ft 4 in

Anything else you need?

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Old Oct 24, 2004, 09:16 AM
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John,

They arent like our turbines today are they, 11,000 rpm's at full rated thrust...
This is one book I want to find over here.

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Old Oct 24, 2004, 11:16 AM
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There is lots of information. You must be looking in the wrong place.The book German jet engine and gas turbine development 1930-1945 has 14 pages on the way it developed , with cross sections and photos. Specs of the 109-011 a-0 are

Thrust 2,866.5 lbs static
2294 lb at 559 mph sea level
1002.5 lbs 559 mph at 32,800 ft

max rpm 11,000
idle rpm 6,000

specific fuel consumption 1.31
comp efficiency 80%
weight 2,095 lbs
specific weight 0.73
height 3ft 61/2 ins
width 2 ft 10 ins
length 11 ft 4 in

Anything else you need?

John
to be precise intake and exhaust diameter on the engine

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Old Oct 24, 2004, 03:01 PM
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to be precise intake and exhaust diameter on the engine
By scaling the cross section I make them:-

Inlet 1.61035533 ft

Exhaust 1.840406091 ft

If you would like a scan of the section I can mail it to you

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Old Oct 24, 2004, 03:09 PM
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By scaling the cross section I make them:-

Inlet 1.61035533 ft

Exhaust 1.840406091 ft

If you would like a scan of the section I can mail it to you

John
Hmmm, 49cm in and 56cm out.

The diameter of the engine itself I got as 86cm (bulky unit).

I suppose I can't make the thing fully to scale (it would make for really bad thrust characteristics at least).

Thank you I appreciate the assistance!

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Old Oct 24, 2004, 03:44 PM
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Hmmm, 49cm in and 56cm out.

The diameter of the engine itself I got as 86cm (bulky unit).

I suppose I can't make the thing fully to scale (it would make for really bad thrust characteristics at least).

Thank you I appreciate the assistance!

Cyb
Uh-uh... me thinks there is a Luftwaffe Secret Weapon being build in someones garage!
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Old Oct 24, 2004, 05:40 PM
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Uh-uh... me thinks there is a Luftwaffe Secret Weapon being build in someones garage!
Shhhh be very quiet.. takes fewer engines this way aka cheaper hehehe.
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