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Old Feb 06, 2002, 08:48 AM
Balsa Flies Better!
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Suggestions for Old Timer?

It's finally dawned on me that I need to replace my 70% Buzzard Bombshell. I'd rather not build the same plane again, so I'm looking for some suggestions for a similar sized plane instead.

Here are the criterion: I'm shooting for a wing area around 425 squares and a weight of 25-30 ounces so I can use the same power system which is now lying around. Being somewhat lazy, I'd rather a kit or semi-kit rather than just plans. I found the following list of semi-kits at

http://www.harryklarich.virtualempire.com/

and I'd buy another kit from them.

I'd kick around Larry's Cutie, but I want something that is hands off stable, super easy to fly and can thermal. Shouldn't be hyper light either, the ability to handle some wind is useful. I'd rather build, so no ARFs for me. The airplane is not going to be entered in contests so it doesn't have to be a winner, just fly stably and with a decent glide. Here's the toughie- aesthetics counts and something a bit off the beaten path would be good.

So far I'm leaning to the following: Coronet, and the Buccaneer B Special. Other possibilities include a Sailplane or Clipper- it's real hard to argue with the wing on those airplanes. I've flown the big Powerhouse, and I'm not that fond of it- don't know if the 50" is an improvement, but I suspect not. I don't think I'm enough of a masochist to tackle the Answer- I did the Ben Buckle Super Skorpion- that was enough.

I do like the look of the Cumulus and I'll probably pick up the 49" version- the problem is that it's really too small for a Permax 450 T.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

Sam
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Old Feb 06, 2002, 11:31 AM
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Old Feb 06, 2002, 11:45 AM
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Check out the kits at Spirit of Yesteryear... they might be a little larger than you're looking for, but it's worth a shot...

http://www.soy.on.ca/planes.html

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Old Feb 06, 2002, 11:58 AM
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Thanks for the suggestions. I may wind up with a Bomber or Playboy yet, but I probably do need the somewhat smaller versions- I drive a Neon and I like to carry a couple of airplanes.

Thanks,

Sam
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Old Feb 06, 2002, 03:57 PM
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Have you looked at AeroDyne? They have a very good selection.

PVHC also has the Quaker in 2 sizes and a Dalliaire.

Remenber these planes were designed for FREEFLIGHT. Not RC. Most people don't like they way they handle with RC.

I just use the radio to keep them from flying away. I get the impression that that is how many people fly these planes.

I had a 50" Powerhouse. It had an OS .15 in it. I got a lot of good flying time out of it. I liked it and I have been thinking about building another.

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Old Feb 06, 2002, 08:57 PM
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Old Timer Choice

I plan on building the following for S400 or 480 electric.
RC One fuselage (roomy & straightforward)
Playboy wing (proven & good lookin)

The Playboy cabin has less room and harder to build. GottaFly
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Old Feb 06, 2002, 09:20 PM
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How about a Quaker Flash? I am really enjoying mine. Its 66" wingspan but I have no problem getting it in my car. It has a real old timer look to it with the landing gear way out in front of the prop. I coverted mine to electric and it is a great flyer powered by a Magnetic Mayhem, old Leisure gearbox and a !3x6-10 prop. I am now using the 8 cell 1700 mah pack that came with my Zagi 400x as well as the newer 1400 mah pack. Its not a floater - just cruises around nicely on 1/2 power with lots of extra power for shooting landings. That's my favorite thing with this airplane. The gear protects the prop and gearbox and is very stable on our rough grass field so I can land, bounce along the grass on Texler wheels and then bound into the air to do it all over again. Last time the field was kind wet and that was one dirty plane I took home, but no damage anywhere.
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Old Feb 07, 2002, 08:35 AM
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The easiest built for a high performance old timer is Joe Beshar's Fox. It looks like a Zipper. It's a world record holder in class A free flight and has been updated to SAM RC events. I have one built by him with an Elfin 2,5 diesel that goes up like a RAPED APE!!!!

Klarich sells the short kits.
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Old Feb 07, 2002, 12:09 PM
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I have an Aveox cabin Playboy from Kirk at New Creations. Very happy with it. The kit quality was excellent. This is a plane that requires a good lawn chair with a tray to hold your transmitter in case you want to use it. A real put-it-up and forget it flyer. Fun when you walk away from your xmtr and go get a cup of coffee..
Have a 550 geaared 3 to 1. More than enough power and great duration.

RonJ

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Old Mar 10, 2014, 07:42 PM
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68 in Aveox Playboy Cabin Power?w

I can see this is an OLD thread! I bought a beautiful old AVEOX Playboy Cabin a few months ago and need to know what is the BEST electric motor system to use? Money is no object ( it can't be that much anyway) I just want to fly it and relax and enjoy the old time simplicity of a true classic old timer. Anyone out there able to provide me with a good power and prop configuration? Thank you for your time and reply!!!

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Old Mar 10, 2014, 07:46 PM
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Hey RonJ

Quiet an old thread indeed, but it caught my attention! Hope you're still on the site ? I've bought an old AVEOX Plauboy Cabin on this site a few on ths ago and want to start building soon, but have to ask about the electric power, what's the BEST to go with?

Thank you
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 12:47 AM
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You guys are in the wrong pew, go here for suggestions, etc., on old timers. I have always liked the looks of the flying Quaker series too.

http://www.rcgroups.com/vintage-and-...r-designs-209/
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 09:51 AM
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Quaker +1
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