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Old Sep 05, 2004, 10:43 AM
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Guillow's Messerschmitt Bf-109

Hi, all

A month ago I finished a Guillow's Messerschmitt, and I posted some pictures of it. And now people got interssted in my little Messerschmitt. So I took the time of strating this thread about my Bf-109.
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Old Sep 05, 2004, 10:53 AM
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In a word..."Beautiful!"

I'm seeing more of these kinds of builds pop up lately, so people must be finding out it really is fun to build. I think seeing something I built, which is a one of a kind, is much more satisfying than slap'n some hunks of foam together with mold marks. But hey, thats just me!

Outstanding work!

-Mike
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Old Sep 05, 2004, 11:28 AM
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stunning!

How does she fly? specs ? or link to thread?
My buddy is almost done with a Guillows Stearman ...
next up on his board is a P-47 thunderbolt ...

these kits are nifty (always have been) and I believe a few are now available with laser cut parts.

best of luck!
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Old Sep 05, 2004, 11:33 AM
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Lets start with the spinner.

The spinner was built up of the Guillow's Messerschmitt spinner included in the kit and the standard GWS IPX-drive spinner. Istarted by cutting of the GWS spinner, at the top, to match with the Guillow's spinner in height. Then I used CA glue to glue the GWS spinner to the Guillow's spinner. I was very careful with this, so that I got it absolutly straight. When the CA had hardend I turned it upsidedown and filled it halfway up with white glue, and left it to set for 30 minutes. Then I made a ring of 1,5mm plywood wich I glued to the spinner construction. After that I cut out the slots for the prop and filled the rest of the spinner with NHP Mirco-fill, any light model filler will work. When the filler had set sanded it and lay a thin layer of white glue over it, so that it got a harder surface. After the white glue had set it was time for balansing. This is done very easy, you attach the spinner to the gearbox and run it on full throttle until the the white glue inside the spinner is pushed back to the ply ring, and now you let it dry (my to almost a week to dry). My ended up weighing 0,5 gram.
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Old Sep 05, 2004, 11:58 AM
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Wow, thanks for all that great information!

The idea of mating the GWS spinner inside the Guillows one is quite ingenious. The one thing that stumps me on this build is the location of the battery. Where did you decide to mount your electronics and battery to get it to balance out correctly? The stock Guillows airframe has ribs right where the electronics would go, right above the wing. How did you solve this? Did you cut the ribs and make your wing removable, or did you do it some other way?

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Cameron Aach
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Old Sep 05, 2004, 01:19 PM
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Excellent work - the rib and stringer construction really makes the plane look realistic. What size kit is this? I have a Guillows Nakajima Rufe that's partially completed, but it's much too small for electric R/C, at least with standard micro gear. Its wingspan is 16".
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Old Sep 05, 2004, 01:51 PM
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The above aircraft is a Guillows 400 series. The warbirds in this series have wingspans of around 25 inches. I think the 109 has a wingspan of 23.5" with the scale wing (not the optional wider wing which decreases wing loading-at the expense of looks.)


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Old Sep 05, 2004, 06:17 PM
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Hi, all

A month ago I finished a Guillow's Messerschmitt, and I posted some pictures of it. And now people got interssted in my little Messerschmitt. So I took the time of strating this thread about my Bf-109.
Hey Alexander-

That's a gorgeous 109!

If I might make a suggestion, if you're looking for more discussion about scale, you might consider continuing this build thread in the Scale section.

When I built my Dumas Alpha conversion, I posted it here in Parkflyers, and while I did get some very good suggestions and comments, I have the feeling that a lot of scale guys don't check in here as often as I do; perhaps if they don't come here much, they figure this forum is dominated by foam and non scale sport planes...which I like also, plus I see plenty of useful scale things here too.

I spent 5 months building my Guillow's Stuka conversion, and my next WW II German warbird will be a GWS 109...much simpler

Of course my current project is a wood WW I AerodromeRC Halberstadt, so I do go back and forth!

I like these small/mid size rubber FF types, I have a shelf AND closet full of kits and plans in the basement. With lipo batteries, modern materials, and radio & servo components that keep getting smaller every week, I look forward to doing some. Keep them simple, no gear for soft grass landings, A/E/T control, and you have big fun in a very small package!

Now with your 109 I can have decent fighter escort for my dive bombing missions

Glenn
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Old Sep 05, 2004, 06:57 PM
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Hey Admiral Piett14, I have to chime in with the guys here, absolutely stunning finish and weathering on that 109 of yours!

I also noticed the MFT businesscard behind the plane. Johan is my favourite online dealer especcially when it comes to the smaller stuff. Itīs great to see that his business isnīt restricted to Sweden.

We desperately need a flightreport, preferrably with inflight pictures!

Anders O
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Old Sep 05, 2004, 11:44 PM
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i'm doing a p40 right now, have the fuse and wing ready for sheeting. on the plans it calls for sheeting just the front of the fuse and wing, i've been thinking of fully sheeting with 1/32 balsa the fuse and wings. did you partal sheet or full your fuse? i know you didnt do the top of your wing, i can see the ribs, i may only do the bottom of mine also. i figured this would help beef up the wing/belly, since i dont plan to put lg on and will be belly landing and wanted some extra structure.
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Old Sep 05, 2004, 11:54 PM
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Wow,

Awesome work with these simple kits...just out of curiosity how much time was spent on the 109?



-Matt
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Old Sep 06, 2004, 12:04 PM
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Hi, all

Zeroaltitude

There is one thing I have to pointout to you. I am not Norwegian I am Swedish but I live in Norway, so MFT is still only restriced to Sweden. Because this airplane was built in Sweden this summer.

the Swamp Fox

Specs:
GWS IPX-drive
2 Hitec HS-55 servos
E-Tec 700mAh battery
Jeti REX 5-plus rx
Electifly C-5 nano ESC

She dosen't fly for the moment, because I'we taken out the radiogear and put it in my newest edition, a Fan-tastic models AT-6 Texan.

zagisrule!

It took my to and a half month to bulit this aircraft, one week of painting.

mu2freighter

The reson a didn't post this tread in scale modelling, is that the paint scheme is to a Messerschitt Bf-109 E not a D version like this is.

Love your Stuka (drool....... )

Catkicker

I did some reenforcement to the cockpit aera, and around the battery hatch on the leftside with 1mm balsa sheeting. I didn't reenforce the the wing.

The Max-Q

The wing is not removable. As you can see in the pictures I put the servos in the cockpit and the battery as far forward as possiple. But I didn't get the CG right, because of all the reenforcements to the elevator and rudder. So don't reenforce them as much as I did and use a smaller battery. The E-Tec 700mAh battery is the biggest that you can spueeze in.


And last some more detail pictures:
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Old Sep 06, 2004, 12:07 PM
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Old Sep 06, 2004, 03:38 PM
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lol, love the battery door the one thing i couldnt pick out on the first picture was that you used the tissue paper for covering. i'd already planed to use one of the commercial coverings for mine, tissue is ok for looks, but its just not durable enough for grass landings, especially the way i do them i plan to mount the aileron servo in the wing, which i do plan to make removeable, on the p 40 it doesnt look like it will be that hard to do. im using a 180 motor that was out of my fokker DVII and am planning on putting the battery in the cockpit, rec and esc under that, with the elevator servo mounted upside down just below the front edge of the canopy, i think thats the only way i'll be able to get it to balance. mine wont be able to fly until i change over to lipos. i wanted to do at least one tradional plane, but i'll never do another one with die cut parts :P
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