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Old Aug 31, 2004, 08:11 AM
GordySoar@aol.com
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Paul Siegel's Plane AND the Mid America Soaring Champs

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This is the fast becoming popular AVA RES to Agea Conversion wing. Available
from Phil Barnes, it allows AVA owners to use one fuse for two classes!

With the Agea wing on, you simply plug in the wing connections, and with the
AVA wing you only plug in the spoiler connection.

Paul said it is definitely in the same class of performance with his Icons.
(both Paul and Bruce Davidson are flying Agea wings, Bruce took wood both
days in Unlimited, and rumor has it that Fly'n Brian Smith has just fitted his
Agea wing to his AVA fuse!).

You all should have been there. The Mid AM is in Lexington Kentucky and is
a more 'classic' style of TD comp. 2 rounds per window of an hour and a half
time. This isn't about 'sandbagging' its about using your understanding of
air development and strategy. You can launch when ever you want in the
window, some want to get their own air, and some wait for a 'birddog' to find some
air. Either way its fun and often when someone hits big air, it never fails
there is some snafu that keeps the rush of ten guys hoping to hook up on the
free ride from catching the cycle!

It is part of the OVSS and is one of two non Man on Man contests. While
there is some pressure to get those two to convert, its sort of a refreshing
change to have them as they are.

In the end, you still have to have precision control of your sailplane to
get the seconds and the landing points. (runway landings don't lend themselves
well to dork landings because of bounces and spins. And at one point per
inch, every bounce hurts...and every second off is the kiss of second place

My worst landing was 90 points and I missed gold by 10points. (My in the fog
first flight was 9:32, with I think every other flight within 2 seconds
each) in the end, all those tiny pieces add up to hurt. (Steve Siebenaler is
bonding to his Icon and it shows in some really elegant soaring!).

Who were the real winners at MidAm? Everyone that flew it.
Martin Downey of Michigan towed a winch trailer down on the back of his
Harley!
Mike Remus is back at the sticks while under chemo (notice his dumpster
landing on our website :-)
Dave Cambell and young son/timer were having fun together and took wood.
And three cheers for Soars representatives for soaring with us southerners!
Lots of sun and not much wind, but air was really tough on Saturday inspite.

Gordy
England Wednesday

Old Aug 31, 2004, 10:12 AM
George Voss
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RE: Paul Siegel's Plane AND the Mid America Soaring Champs

Paul, can you please explain the comment below? Those of us who have
scrimped and saved to buy an Icon, want to know if we should have saved
$1100 or there-about, not to mention the 12 month or longer wait to get one,
and just bought a 3 channel AVA. gv

-----Original Message-----
From: GordySoar@aol.com [mailto:GordySoar@aol.com]

With the Agea wing on, you simply plug in the wing connections, and with the
AVA wing you only plug in the spoiler connection.

Paul said it is definitely in the same class of performance with his Icons.
(both Paul and Bruce Davidson are flying Agea wings, Bruce took wood both
days in Unlimited, and rumor has it that Fly'n Brian Smith has just fitted
his Agea wing to his AVA fuse!).



Old Sep 01, 2004, 10:11 AM
marta zavala
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RE: Paul Siegel's Plane AND the Mid America Soaring Champs

Until recently I would never have said this-but it seems to me a bagged wing plane just cant match the soaring performance of a good molded wing. Ive not flown the Agea wing, but have flown several bagged wing Manti and have flown the bagged FS01 foiled Compulsion a lot. I have a F3J Icon,
in my opinion neither the Manti nor the FS01 can match its soaring performance. That being said, what plane will I fly at Visalia this year?
The FS01 Compulsion of course. As good as the Icon is, I dont think it is in the same league as the FS01 when it comes to landing, and I doubt very few planes are. The FS01 although not the soaring machine the Icon is, is a more than capable soaring plane and in most cases can get the job done.
Couple that with its outstanding landing ability and I feel you have the ideal plane for typical Visalia type conditions(but then again what do I know as Ive only been to Visalia one time.)
I wouldnt fret over your Icon purchase George.
Walter
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Voss" <gavoss@swbell.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:16:35 -0500
To: <soaring@airage.com>
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Paul Siegel's Plane AND the Mid America Soaring Champs

> Paul, can you please explain the comment below? Those of us who have
> scrimped and saved to buy an Icon, want to know if we should have saved
> $1100 or there-about, not to mention the 12 month or longer wait to get one,
> and just bought a 3 channel AVA. gv
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GordySoar@aol.com [mailto:GordySoar@aol.com]
>
> With the Agea wing on, you simply plug in the wing connections, and with the
> AVA wing you only plug in the spoiler connection.
>
> Paul said it is definitely in the same class of performance with his Icons.
> (both Paul and Bruce Davidson are flying Agea wings, Bruce took wood both
> days in Unlimited, and rumor has it that Fly'n Brian Smith has just fitted
> his Agea wing to his AVA fuse!).
>
>


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