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Old Jul 26, 2001, 06:24 PM
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First electric plane for an experienced glow flier?

I've been lurking around E Zone for a while now, and have decided that I want to be an electric flier. Can someone recommend a sensible choice for my first electric plane? My circumstances are that I:

- am a competent flier of a <A HREF="http://www.sigmfg.com/cgi-bin/dpsmart.exe/ProductsIL.html?L+Sig+odmm2830+_Ddp_5fSearch1_02A_ 2dPlaneRCFStar40_01">SIG Four Star 40</A>, with 2 years RC flight experience
- fly outdoor
- have no serious electric fliers at my club
- prefer sport aerobatic models
- am attracted to planes like the Great Planes Electro Streak, or something in the Speed 400 range
- prefer to build planes from kit
- am afraid of selecting a model that is too fast or twitchy for me to fly.

I'd appreciate any advice you can offer.

I've done my best to search through the discussion archives, but I couldn't find any information that exactly matches my question.

Thanks!

PS. Thanks to everyone who has made E Zone such a great reference and such an interesting place.
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Old Jul 26, 2001, 06:35 PM
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You will get a million different replies on this!

As a long-term IC flyer my first electric models were a Pico Jet and a Twin Star. After 2 years (and with experience of ailerons) you should be able to handle either with no problem at all, but if you're worried then the Twin Star would be better.

Either of these will get you e-flying in a couple of evenings at low cost.

With 8 cells and 4-ch radio the Twin Star is reasonably aerobatic .. I have a trike u/c on mine and it will ROG easily from shortish grass. It will loop, roll, spin, flick roll, bunt (just), etc. yet it looks quite scale in the air. I get 10 min flights with 2400 cells.
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Old Jul 26, 2001, 06:36 PM
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Welcome to the ezone! Buy an X250! Its made to fly outside. It is a sport areobatic plane. Flies smooth and it very areobatic and a lot of fun to fly. It uses a geared 400 on 10cells. And is a kit. It don't fly to fast and isn't twitchy with the throws set right.
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Old Jul 26, 2001, 07:17 PM
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Why not do a 4-40? I've seen them fly on 8 cells, up to 20 cells. From a geared Magnetic Mayhem to a hot geared brushless. From a gentle flyer to a hot performer. You already know the plane and how it performs. Build it light and power it to your preference. Dave C.
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Old Jul 26, 2001, 07:33 PM
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I'd second the X250.. it's a good builder and a good flier.
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The investment up front isn't all that steep.
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Old Jul 26, 2001, 07:35 PM
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If you are thinking of an Electrostreak, then take a look at the Embat. It is a newer version of the Electrostreak. I flew mine yesterday with an AVeox 1406/4Y, 8 3000 NiMH cells, and a 8 x 6 APC E prop. A very crisp performer. I will go to 10 cells, (2000 NiMH) for a little more power at the same weight as the 8 cell version.
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Old Jul 26, 2001, 08:15 PM
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While many of the suggestions here are very very good, particularly the X250, I'd recommend the Electrostreak. I make this recommendation for performance and cost reasons. The performance is good with the stock motor and can be improved with a Magnetic Mayhem or Velkom motor. As far as I can see the E-streak is one of the best bangs for buck going. You pay $55 for the plane/motor, pick up a good 30 amp ESC for around $40-$50 and run the system on 7 1900 SCR cells at $4 or less per cell. Remember you'll need a decent charger and if you want to upgrade the motor you pay $25-50 for the motors listed.
Again the other suggestions are good but the cost for an E-streak setup makes it very attractive.
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Old Jul 26, 2001, 09:11 PM
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X250 is you want small, and relatively cheap. Or if you like how the 4* flies, electrify one of those. The streak would certainly work well, it's a very capable model. The 250 is small, sp400-sized, but doesn't like a lot of wind.
Lots of options inbetweem of course, but there's not many glow models that you can't electrify, so what would you like?
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Old Jul 26, 2001, 09:14 PM
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Look at the Herr Pitts. Many people have converted it to electric. http://iflyherr.com
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Old Jul 27, 2001, 12:22 AM
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Thankyou for your replies. It is great to get the benefit of your wisdom and experience.

I don't think I'm ready for a conversion project yet. Maybe after I have some experience with a purpose-built electric aircraft ...
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Old Jul 27, 2001, 10:15 AM
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build another four star 40, lighten it up, and stick a 40 size engine in it.

muhhahahahahha

you can hover with that setup....

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Old Jul 27, 2001, 11:33 PM
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Don't forget s400....FMA Razor....Ace Simple 400...Great starters without alot of $$$. That way, if you don't like'em, you did not waste alot of money. Plus you can always put these on fuel! (.049-.061)
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Old Jul 28, 2001, 12:37 AM
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Hi Digital! Found myself in the same boat as you. Been flying R/C off and on since the late 1969. I built an X-250 for my 26 year old son when he sugested we should take up the hobby again. Found out my reflexes and eyesight were not what they used to be! Once sorted out with the help of Larry at SR my son could fly the 250 but I needed something more relaxing.The SR cutie was not yet released so I bought a Miss2 from Hobby Lobby after reading the Steve Horney review on the EZONE. Best $109.00 I have ever spent in this hobby!As said by Cruz and a whole lot of other EZONERS this craft is great! The quality of the kit is EXCEPTIONAL and if built stone stock flies with no problems.Very RELAXING-VERY FORGIVING-Provided me with the opportunity to get my confidence back.I am sure there are other fine models to choose from but this is one you should definitely consider if you are in the market for an ARF. This is definitely not an aerobatic model. But you may find as I did that E-flight is a whole new ball of wax as compared to IC. These are much smaller models that are much less forgiving in regards to cg and control throws than wet powered modelers are used to.Iwould suggest you get one trainer type under your belt before you look to performance ships- Theres a lot to learn!

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Old Jul 29, 2001, 12:29 AM
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I would suggest the Herr Engineering
Cloud Ranger Kit.

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Originally posted by Digital:
I've been lurking around E Zone for a while now, and have decided that I want to be an electric flier. Can someone recommend a sensible choice for my first electric plane? My circumstances are that I:

- am a competent flier of a <A HREF="http://www.sigmfg.com/cgi-bin/dpsmart.exe/ProductsIL.html?L+Sig+odmm2830+_Ddp_5fSearch1_02A_ 2dPlaneRCFStar40_01">SIG Four Star 40</A>, with 2 years RC flight experience
- fly outdoor
- have no serious electric fliers at my club
- prefer sport aerobatic models
- am attracted to planes like the Great Planes Electro Streak, or something in the Speed 400 range
- prefer to build planes from kit
- am afraid of selecting a model that is too fast or twitchy for me to fly.

I'd appreciate any advice you can offer.

I've done my best to search through the discussion archives, but I couldn't find any information that exactly matches my question.

Thanks!

PS. Thanks to everyone who has made E Zone such a great reference and such an interesting place.
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Old Jul 31, 2001, 08:18 AM
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As you are from Canberra you may find this site usefull. A lot of the problems with electric flight are very different to those of the internal combustion flight, having others to share the problems with can make them interesting, rather than driving you out of the best part of model flying.
The Electro Streak would be a good choice if you are already able to handle that type of model, but check out what others are flying and then decide which you prefer, and the gear you wish to buy.
Happy E flying http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/5459/
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