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Old Aug 19, 2004, 09:08 PM
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Shogun tail servo ? Anything as good or better than hs50 ?

Just had the hs50 quit on me. Total time about 10 mins (including setup time)

Is there a better option out there ? The hs50 specs are nice but no bearing supported output. Combine that with hitec failure rate.

Thanks , martin
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Old Aug 19, 2004, 09:54 PM
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Just had the hs50 quit on me. Total time about 10 mins (including setup time)

Is there a better option out there ? The hs50 specs are nice but no bearing supported output. Combine that with hitec failure rate.

Thanks , martin
I'm looking for something better then the HS50s too, if you find someting let me know.


I've heard great things about Hitec's customer support and tech department. So far I haven't had a issue with a transmitter or a servo failing cept for my dog getting a hold of one and chewing it up.
I went back to using a HS55 on the tail for one of my Shoguns, only reason I have a HS50 on the other one is it's the only servo I have. I'll be looking for a couple of replacements for the HS50 may as well buy two or 3.
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Old Aug 19, 2004, 10:56 PM
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I had 3 hitec hs50 quit within 10 minutes. All with dead motor.
Looks like pretty bad servo. GWS pico servo works well for more than 30 flights already.

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Just had the hs50 quit on me. Total time about 10 mins (including setup time)

Is there a better option out there ? The hs50 specs are nice but no bearing supported output. Combine that with hitec failure rate.

Thanks , martin
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Old Aug 19, 2004, 11:24 PM
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the HS-56's have been great in my Shogun, I have them all the way around.
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Old Aug 19, 2004, 11:25 PM
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acording to the gws card (i have 2 pico's right here)

the pico F clocks in at .09 seconds (4.8v)
Standard pico is 12

hs-50 's are .09 (same) at 4.8v

hs-50 weighs - 6.1 grams
pico f weighs - 5.4 grams

If you want a BB output you have to get into the naro (next bigger) line.

check out this link. Doesn't list all the servo's but there are some.

Pico + f has a bearing but is 6.2oz ( 0.1 heavier than hs50) but slower at .12
BUT is claimed to be .10 on 6 volts. Anyone know what the voltage out of ECS is ? I'm using the CC esc's in both brushless and brushed.

Maby this is another option.

Myself i'd like to see a bearing.

Martin
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Old Aug 19, 2004, 11:32 PM
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art :

The 56's are nice as they have the bearing in them. I also hear the carbonate gear doesn't have alot of play in them, and wear well.

The 56's clock in at .12 sec and .10 at 6.0 volts , at 11.2 grams.

Do you have this servo boom mounted ? How are you working your CG ?

Martin
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Old Aug 20, 2004, 12:12 AM
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The hs-50 is very overrated, it's too big for the stock location, comes complete with slop and is expensive.

The best servo for the Zoom tail in my opinion has to be:

GWS Naro+f hp BB - .10 @ 4.8V with 1.7 kg of tourqe with no slop. I dumped my hs-50 for one of these and they also fit in the frame. Tail is ROCK solid running 75% on a gy240. If I had known what I know now, I would have put these servos on collective and cyclic as well.
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Old Aug 20, 2004, 12:31 AM
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I like my Cirrus 5.4

Seems fast enough, is slimmer and doesn't rub the main gear, but needs a little mounting TLC as the holes don't match up perfectly. Appear to be bulletproof so far.

I've had good luck with HS-50s so far, but 55's are not my favorites in the world. Seems that, for me, the pots go out regularly. Just my $.02

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Old Aug 20, 2004, 01:24 AM
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I am using a Cirrus CS-10 BB, having changed from my HS-50. I had a tail wag the would not go away until I went to the Cirrus. It is a super fast little servo, faster than the HS-50.

Dimensions: .90 x .37 x .610.
Weights19oz (5.5g)
Speed: 0.06 sec/60 deg
Torque: 7 oz/in (0.5
Ball Bearing
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Old Aug 20, 2004, 02:03 AM
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I have used:

gws pico+
hs50
jr371

the pico plus suked, the hs 50 is good (mine centres well?) and the jr is almost as good as the hs50 in terms of speed and also seems to have better resolution. had them all laying around so I checked. I use a jr410t hh gyro, and the response from it is WAY sharper than the futaba (I have also tried gy240) so the poor old gws pico had no hope with its slower response times. There is no discerable difference between the jr and hitec in flight (also the same size wieght etc)
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Old Aug 20, 2004, 08:56 AM
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Would a digital servo serve in this application, or is that overkill?
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Old Aug 20, 2004, 09:07 AM
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I used to run 401 and hs50 on my Hornet 2's... When I bought 2 shoguns I used 401s and hs56's. The tail holds BETTER on the shogun than it did on my Hornet 2. The HS56 HB is ROCK solid on my Shoguns. I replaced the stock drive wire with a homemade carbon fiber pushrod and mp jet clevises. The HS56 is a great servo.

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Old Aug 20, 2004, 11:41 AM
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I'm looking for something better then the HS50s too, if you find someting let me know.
I shouldn't say this because after everyone finds out they'll all be on backorder!

Expert SL-110. I have one on the HII and one on the Shogun. Great little servo.
HS55's & 56's are fine, but the 50's are hit and miss.

http://www.rcmicroflight.com/dec99/m..._roundup03.asp
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Old Aug 20, 2004, 11:53 AM
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Would a digital servo serve in this application, or is that overkill?
Doesn't your GYRO have to be compatible with a digital to use it I know the GY401 isIm not sure about the GY240.

I just found out that the answer is a resounding NO...you can use a digital anywhere a standard is used but it will use more power.
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Old Aug 20, 2004, 12:02 PM
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Here is a link about digital servos from Futaba....pretty good.

www.futaba-rc.com/servos/digitalservos.pdf
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