Aug 19, 2004, 06:11 PM M78Ultra M78Ultra Guest n/a Posts pondering tire treads Let's say you have a V tread tire (like factory T/E Maxx) Do you have more grip/traction with the point of the V facing the front of the truck (point of the V contacting the ground first) or the two ends of the V facing the front of the truck (V ends contacting ground first)? I have been thinking too much about this and it's bugging me! It would seem to me that the V point facing front would be the most logical choice as it would have less resistance and push dirt to the outside of the wheel as where the other way (with V ends facing front/contacting first) would pull dirt in towards the center of the tire. On the other hand...if you weren't on dirt and say doing some rock climbing/rough terrain running, wouldn't it be logical to assume that the tires would perform better with the V ends making contact first providing better bite? What do you guys think?
 Aug 19, 2004, 06:11 PM Dean Dean Guest n/a Posts Re: pondering tire treads On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:03:11 GMT, "M78Ultra" wrote: >Let's say you have a V tread tire (like factory T/E Maxx) >Do you have more grip/traction with the point of the V facing the front of >the truck (point of the V contacting the ground first) or the two ends of >the V facing the front of the truck (V ends contacting ground first)? >I have been thinking too much about this and it's bugging me! >It would seem to me that the V point facing front would be the most logical >choice as it would have less resistance and push dirt to the outside of the >wheel as where the other way (with V ends facing front/contacting first) >would pull dirt in towards the center of the tire. >On the other hand...if you weren't on dirt and say doing some rock >climbing/rough terrain running, wouldn't it be logical to assume that the >tires would perform better with the V ends making contact first providing >better bite? >What do you guys think? well, stock they are usually set so that the v point touches first. But in loose sand and the like I would think that reversing them to get a cupping action would be beneficial. It may have an impact on side bite though. -Dean --- Proud owner of: Associated RC10GT Team Losi XX "CR" Team Losi XXX KE http://ripperd.com email: dean (at) the above domain
 Aug 19, 2004, 08:11 PM Mark Stevens Mark Stevens Guest n/a Posts Re: pondering tire treads "M78Ultra" wrote in message news:jA8Vc.179328\$wH4.11646279@twister.southeast.r r.com... > Let's say you have a V tread tire (like factory T/E Maxx) > Do you have more grip/traction with the point of the V facing the front of > the truck (point of the V contacting the ground first) or the two ends of > the V facing the front of the truck (V ends contacting ground first)? > I have been thinking too much about this and it's bugging me! > It would seem to me that the V point facing front would be the most logical > choice as it would have less resistance and push dirt to the outside of the > wheel as where the other way (with V ends facing front/contacting first) > would pull dirt in towards the center of the tire. > On the other hand...if you weren't on dirt and say doing some rock > climbing/rough terrain running, wouldn't it be logical to assume that the > tires would perform better with the V ends making contact first providing > better bite? > What do you guys think? > A question I have often pondered on myself but if you look at most full size vehicles with same tyre patterns ( and there are plenty including your humble Farm Tractor), you will see that the pointed end of the V does indeed make contact first, so surely that is your answer. Regards......Mark. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 16/08/2004
 Aug 19, 2004, 08:11 PM mike mike Guest n/a Posts Re: pondering tire treads I've heard (haven't tried it myself) that traction is improved if you reverse the tyres. However they are oriented that way as a historical thing on 1:1 vehicles. On 1:1 vehicles it is done that way not for traction but because the tyres will "self clean" themselves of stuck on mud etc better. Which probably doesn't really apply too much to RC. As another observation, I've tried some pins on my T-Maxx and it actually makes it *harder* to drive unless conditions are just right - very hard to judge corner speed since the extra side grip tends to exacerbate the T's tendancy to traction roll in corners. Mike "M78Ultra" wrote in message news:jA8Vc.179328\$wH4.11646279@twister.southeast.r r.com... > Let's say you have a V tread tire (like factory T/E Maxx) > Do you have more grip/traction with the point of the V facing the front of > the truck (point of the V contacting the ground first) or the two ends of > the V facing the front of the truck (V ends contacting ground first)? > I have been thinking too much about this and it's bugging me! > It would seem to me that the V point facing front would be the most logical > choice as it would have less resistance and push dirt to the outside of the > wheel as where the other way (with V ends facing front/contacting first) > would pull dirt in towards the center of the tire. > On the other hand...if you weren't on dirt and say doing some rock > climbing/rough terrain running, wouldn't it be logical to assume that the > tires would perform better with the V ends making contact first providing > better bite? > What do you guys think? > >
 Aug 19, 2004, 10:11 PM Mark Stevens Mark Stevens Guest n/a Posts Re: pondering tire treads "mike netspace.net.au>" wrote in message news:41254bb6\$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au... > I've heard (haven't tried it myself) that traction is improved if you > reverse the tyres. However they are oriented that way as a historical thing > on 1:1 vehicles. On 1:1 vehicles it is done that way not for traction but > because the tyres will "self clean" themselves of stuck on mud etc better. > Which probably doesn't really apply too much to RC. > > As another observation, I've tried some pins on my T-Maxx and it actually > makes it *harder* to drive unless conditions are just right - very hard to > judge corner speed since the extra side grip tends to exacerbate the T's > tendancy to traction roll in corners. Self clean as in the V groove making contact first directs the mud to the outside of the tyres, I have looked at it logically and can see that in reverse it will draw mud into the centre of the tyres....(This will cause same effect as a car aquaplaning on a very wet road surface) At the end of the day we are trying to improve upon or maintain best running conditions....even on road tyres with a V pattern the point of the V makes contact first and the rest of the V provides more grip, providing a wider footprint & chanelling the water away (especially in wet conditions). But I don't worry about these things....my tyres are slicks now and the car does great doughnuts................. Regards.......Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 19/08/2004