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Old Aug 14, 2004, 03:53 AM
More Combat Please!
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Utah Unicorn Diary (Part II)

We were asked by a moderator to start part II of this thread, so here it is.

The original thread can be found here http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211593

I've modified the name from Unicorn Diary and added Utah, since that's where most of the participants are from, and most of the time is spend discussing Unicorn combat sessions for the group. Of course, anybody that wants to pipe in and ask questions or make comments, feel free.

If you'd like to see video of our recent sessions, you can download it here:
http://www.xmission.com/~toddsher/RC...bat_sr3mov.zip for quicktime lovers (sorenson3), and here:
http://www.xmission.com/~toddsher/RC...at_divxavi.zip for avi people (divx).

Enjoy
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Old Aug 14, 2004, 01:30 PM
The original Flying Pigs Sqd.
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Slabs,

I hope you find this continuation...

In answer to your question; Yes, you do use fibertape before any covering, being it packingtape, oracover, ultracote, or papertoweling...
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Old Aug 14, 2004, 11:48 PM
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Chiming into the new thread!

Did you guys fly this morning? I'd normally prefer flying to golf anyday -- but as work paid my entry into a customer tourny and I came away with $130 in prizes, I guess it was time well spent.

Also, it looks like I will be a GO for this weekend. But I would still like to fly early this week if others want in.

Tuesday, 7:00AM, US Synthetics Park -- who's in?

Darren

P.S. -- I think I forgot to mention my Unicorn passed its 100th flight just about the time I refinished it. Here's hoping this refurbish lasts another 100 flights!
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Old Aug 15, 2004, 12:22 AM
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I'm still go for Tuesday, and hopefully Saturday. Tim called this morning to let me now he couldn't make it due to a water leak in his house, and I was relieved to just stay home and sleep in after a long night at work. . . though I've been in a bad mood all day because I missed Saturday combat. I'm having obvious and painful withdrawals.
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Old Aug 15, 2004, 09:57 AM
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so in unicorn combat you try to knock the other planes out of the sky?where can i find a cheap one.would anybody want to combat me with a realflight g2 simulator 100 to 110 inch wingspans?cicisfun and I are still trying to arrange our combat.We will be doing open class combat and scale combat.I just thought it would be more fun with more people.
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Old Aug 15, 2004, 11:36 AM
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Hey Im in for Tuesday too. Im so combat deprived Im not sure I can be fully accountable for my actions though :-)

I flew my new bird in montana, I scared a heard of cows away with it. It was pretty fun. Hey maybe unicorns can help cattle rustlers...whole new market for you Mark.

I have mixed feelings on the new motor tube. It is solid as a rock but I had to add more weight then I would have liked to the nose to compensate. My new corn is much heavier then my old one but for combat that is probably the way to go. I used a lot of fiber tape on the nose for weight that is usefull.
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Old Aug 15, 2004, 08:08 PM
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so in unicorn combat you try to knock the other planes out of the sky?
Yessirreee!! A secondary goal is to NOT be hit out of the sky, so watching people attempt difficult post-hit recoveries is half the fun.

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Where can i find a cheap one?
Unicorns are cheap. $50 for the full kit. You buy them online at www.unicornwings.net.

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Would anybody want to combat me with a realflight g2 simulator 100 to 110 inch wingspans?
If I have time to fly, I go and fly. Once you've done combat in real life, simulators just can't compare.

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cicisfun and I are still trying to arrange our combat.We will be doing open class combat and scale combat.I just thought it would be more fun with more people.
Are you saying you'd like to join us? If you're in Utah, please feel free to join in with whatever planes you want to combat with. In our group, we only have unicorns so far. But we'd be more than happy to knock any of your scale birds out of the sky as well! As long as you're willing to cut your power before you slam into our planes. If the prop is in the front, you can do a lot of unnecessary damage. Our goal isn't to destroy each others planes, it's just to get lots of good mid-air collisions. I guess that's one of the primary reasons the Unicorn is such a great combat wing.
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Old Aug 15, 2004, 10:43 PM
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Even if you're not in Utah, feel free to join us anytime.

Tuesday AM I will likely also be maidening my F-18. I just put the finishing touches on it and it looks like amp draw will be low enough that my Tanic 4s pack will be able to handle it. At least I'd like to try a nice 4 min maiden with it to see how hot it gets.

Can't wait for Tuesday!

Darren
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Old Aug 16, 2004, 12:36 PM
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new cells

sorry to Butt in I'm trying out some new cell setups and need the help from hardend combat pilots.
can any of you that are running brushless setups tell me what you are running, pack type, voltage, prop, weight of battery pack and max amps you draw(if you've mesured it).
the cells I am trying out should be ideal for combat any more I don't want to say in case the work proves to be a no good and I end up with instead of or

I know its a lot to ask but the results could be smashing though not to the corns

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Old Aug 16, 2004, 01:13 PM
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At our elevation it seems to be Mega 16/15/4 and a Pheonix 25 with either 10xNiMH(high amp) and a 5x5 prop or 3s(1 or 2p) Lipo and a 6x5 prop. There is a successful 4s lipo and a 6x6 prop as well. Tim
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Old Aug 16, 2004, 03:19 PM
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I use a mega 16 15 4 with a 6x4 prop and 3s2p Tanic 2500 pack that will draw up to 30 amps. I havent tested it with an amp tester but I should be drawing about 24 amps. The tanics only weigh 172 grams. But you have to add weight to the nose to compensate.
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Old Aug 16, 2004, 05:38 PM
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Unicorn Set Ups

There is a successful 4s lipo and a 6x6 prop as well

That's mine, but I'm flying the Mega 16/15/5, not the 4T. Currently my set up is:

Mega 16/15/5; CC-35 ESC; 4s2p 3000 and 4s1p 2200 packs; 6x6 prop
Power in (measured) 20A @ 13V or 260W.

Most run the following:
Mega 16/15/4; CC-35 ESC; 3s packs in the 3000mah range; 5x5 - 6x6 props
Power in (measured from my father's running 3s on a 5x5): 22A at 9.5V or ~215W.

Most of our planes fall somewhere between these two measured points.

At 215W the Unicorn is very fast with incredibly good climb. Mine at 260W has nearly unlimited vertical even at 4700 feet. For the kind of combat we do, 200W+ is plenty. Any set up you can pull about 200 Watts from on a 5-7 inch, high pitch prop will work well. There are many options out there that will work.

To be honest though, I'm really considering saving my lipo packs for my Jet and going back to some of the new higher drain NiMH packs for combat.

A 12 cell GP1100 pack would fit nicely in my Unicorn and wouldn't weigh any more than my 4s2p 3000mah pack. My 'Corn flies better with the extra weight anyway, and four such packs would allow me to fly indefinately (three charging and one flying).

Four 12 cell GP1100 packs would cost about the same as ONE of my larger 4s packs (approx $90) -- and provide more total capacity (4400mah vs 3000mah).

Combat is hard on packs -- just look at the video and see how many times we slam the ground. Even Todd's uber protection hasn't kept a pack or two of his from crumpling. As long as that is known going in, fine.
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Old Aug 16, 2004, 07:44 PM
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Newbies as targets...

So, do you need some new targets to hit?

I bought a Unicorn about 2 months ago, along with 2 other guys from work. We all have stock electronics, and only one of us has ever flown before buying the Unicorn. We'd like to try combat, but do you think we should practice amongst ourselves first, or should we just come down and be targets for you?

Could you give me directions to the field (coming south from SLC)? I looked fairly seriously in the first thread, but didn't find anything concrete. You fly on Tuesday and Saturday mornings, right? What time?

Cheers,
Robin
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Old Aug 16, 2004, 11:25 PM
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Robin,

Come on Down! Heck, it'd be cool to hook up our two groups!

On Tuesday mornings we fly at the field next to my office in Orem. Take I-15 South until you get to the University Parkway Exit (by UVSC). Turn onto University heading west and go straight through the light at Geneva Road. Keep going until you get to 1600 West, then turn South (left). Pull in behind the two identical cinder block buildings and park at the park. We're meeting tomorrow morning at 7 a.m.

We usually meet at Burgess Park in Alpine on Saturday mornings around 8 a.m. We fly there usually until around 10 a.m. To get there, take I-15 until you get to the Highland/Alpine exit (just north of Thanksgiving Point). Take that road east for 4 or 5 miles. You'll come to a light that has a gas station and the Kohler's market. Turn left on that Road and go North. You'll come to a round-about. Take that three-quarters around and head west. You'll come to a park with some baseball diamonds, but keep going until you get to the school just west of the park. Park out front, and go behind the school, where the football/soccer field is. That's where we fly.

We all started with stock setups, so we all understand what your flying limitations will be. If any of you want to fly with us, but don't want to get hit, just let us know before you go up and we'll avoid you. That's doesn't mean you won't occasionally get hit anyway. . . on accident of course.

If you want to call before you come, or if you are worried about getting lost, PM me or Darren and we'll give you our cell #s.

If you 3 end up coming, we could end up with groups of around 10 combat flyers on a weekly basis! Unimaginably cool!!!

Just monitor this thread before each flight day and watch to see who's coming and not. Sometimes we shift times around a bit to accomodate irregularities in people's schedules, so it's good to keep watch here. We have 4 people committed for tomorrow morning, so it'd be a good time to hook up.

Todd
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Old Aug 17, 2004, 12:47 AM
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Usually we fly Tuesdays at lunch -- the Saturday AM events were started because noon Tuesdays became too hot. I imagine Satrudays may end before too long. We'll see.

Do watch the thread because we will throw in some special times and events -- we'll do so more often if we know more pilots will come at other times.

The more the merrier!

Darren
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